Selling Patrick Mahomes?

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Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:35 pm

Hey guys, just curious, is it a good idea to sell Patrick Mahomes for Tevin Coleman and Marcus Mariota in a 32 team .5 PPR (2x Player Copies) League?
- I think Coleman has a chance to be a strong RB2 next season if he can sign to a new team to be a feature back...

Start 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX
Roster:
QB Mahomes, Fitzpatrick
RB Cook, Drake, Conner, Jones, Mack, R Smith
WR Smith-Schuster, Davis, Moore, Williams, Hogan, Tre'Quan Smith
TE Kittle, Everett

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QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

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QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

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QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:57 pm

Mariota is hot garbage and has been for a while, while Mahomes is probably at peak value. Your QB situation would be real shady after this trade and I feel like Coleman / Drake / Connor are all putting up similar points for the foreseeable future. I'd hold and ride it out with Drake, Connor, and Cook.
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:01 pm

Dirty Mike&the Boyz wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:57 pm Mariota is hot garbage and has been for a while, while Mahomes is probably at peak value. Your QB situation would be real shady after this trade and I feel like Coleman / Drake / Connor are all putting up similar points for the foreseeable future. I'd hold and ride it out with Drake, Connor, and Cook.
There's no possible way Mahomes can continue what he's doing though.. right? Looking to sell now while I can..

I have Mariota as my QB15... and Mahomes as my QB7.. and I can always draft/trade for a young QB if I need to as well, since I still have some picks..
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

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QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:07 pm

JCDallas wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:01 pm
Dirty Mike&the Boyz wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:57 pm Mariota is hot garbage and has been for a while, while Mahomes is probably at peak value. Your QB situation would be real shady after this trade and I feel like Coleman / Drake / Connor are all putting up similar points for the foreseeable future. I'd hold and ride it out with Drake, Connor, and Cook.
There's no possible way Mahomes can continue what he's doing though.. right? Looking to sell now while I can..

I have Mariota as my QB15... and Mahomes as my QB7.. and I can always draft/trade for a young QB if I need to as well, since I still have some picks..
I agree with you on the beginning, there's no way Mahomes or any QB for that matter will average 400 yards per game along with 4-5 TD's. I just feel like in a 1 QB league I would rather have a guy who flashes greatness and the possibility of being the face of a franchise and NFL for the next 10 years then a guy who's been very mediocre in his first few seasons in the league. You'll be lucky to EVER see 400+ yards and 5 TD's out of Mariota in a single game (has he ever done it?).

Furthermore, I just don't like the trade because I feel like your RB situation is fine as it is. If you're trying to cash in on some recent performances then Connor is the guy to do it with not Mahomes, just my .2. Mahomes is going to be a starter in this league for a long time, but w/ Connor, who knows.
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:33 pm

What do you guys think I can get for Mahomes then?
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

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QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

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QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby Titans95 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:37 pm

JCDallas wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:33 pm What do you guys think I can get for Mahomes then?
Why not just ride the wave? It's fun to own the hot commodity and his value won't disappear after a couple of disappointing games IF he has them. in essentially a 16 team leagues Qb's are a bit more valuable and Fitzpatrick/Mariota is not something I'd feel comfortable with as my QB options.

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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:46 pm

Titans95 wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:37 pm
JCDallas wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:33 pm What do you guys think I can get for Mahomes then?
Why not just ride the wave? It's fun to own the hot commodity and his value won't disappear after a couple of disappointing games IF he has them. in essentially a 16 team leagues Qb's are a bit more valuable and Fitzpatrick/Mariota is not something I'd feel comfortable with as my QB options.
Gotta play the buy low, sell high game while I can! + I just don't see Mahomes as a top 3-5 QB every week and if I can get a startable player at a position I feel like I need..
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

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QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby slaughterrt » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:57 pm

JCDallas wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:46 pm
Titans95 wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:37 pm
JCDallas wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:33 pm What do you guys think I can get for Mahomes then?
Why not just ride the wave? It's fun to own the hot commodity and his value won't disappear after a couple of disappointing games IF he has them. in essentially a 16 team leagues Qb's are a bit more valuable and Fitzpatrick/Mariota is not something I'd feel comfortable with as my QB options.
Gotta play the buy low, sell high game while I can! + I just don't see Mahomes as a top 3-5 QB every week and if I can get a startable player at a position I feel like I need..
Who do you see as top 3 QB every week? Gotta ask yourself that.

If you say Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Wilson/Luck...then you would be wrong. None of those guys are in the top 3 so far this season AND they are getting up there in age. Now I’m certainly not saying to go buy Ryan Fitzmagic because he is the highest scoring QB so far, but there are going to be NO QBs that are 3-5 EVERY week. Just not gonna happen. So why not keep Mahomes...who is young, has a great team around him, has a QB whisperer coach in Andy Reid, has a high ceiling AND a pretty solid floor. Yes, there is probably recency bias, but there is a lot to like about him and his situation.

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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby Goddard » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:20 pm

In what's basically a 16 team league, I'd hang onto Mahomes.

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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby TampaBay216 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:32 pm

slaughterrt wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:57 pm
JCDallas wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:46 pm
Titans95 wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:37 pm

Why not just ride the wave? It's fun to own the hot commodity and his value won't disappear after a couple of disappointing games IF he has them. in essentially a 16 team leagues Qb's are a bit more valuable and Fitzpatrick/Mariota is not something I'd feel comfortable with as my QB options.
Gotta play the buy low, sell high game while I can! + I just don't see Mahomes as a top 3-5 QB every week and if I can get a startable player at a position I feel like I need..
Who do you see as top 3 QB every week? Gotta ask yourself that.

If you say Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Wilson/Luck...then you would be wrong. None of those guys are in the top 3 so far this season AND they are getting up there in age. Now I’m certainly not saying to go buy Ryan Fitzmagic because he is the highest scoring QB so far, but there are going to be NO QBs that are 3-5 EVERY week. Just not gonna happen. So why not keep Mahomes...who is young, has a great team around him, has a QB whisperer coach in Andy Reid, has a high ceiling AND a pretty solid floor. Yes, there is probably recency bias, but there is a lot to like about him and his situation.
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby M-Dub » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:59 pm

Just because he’s not going to throw for 300 yards and five TDs every week doesn’t mean he can’t continue to produce at an elite level. Even if you don’t believe in his talent, the KC scheme and supporting cast made Alex Smith a top 5 QB last season. Let that sink in for a second. Alex f—ing Smith! And that was before they added Sammy.

I’m not sure why you’re so dead set on selling Mahomes, but if you do, I’d look for a better return than that.
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby gameaholica » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:26 am

Agree with others. I am keeping him, for the reasons mentioned.

If you want to test the waters, put him on the trading block and see what offers you receive.
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby dblj1199 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:34 am

With only Fitz as a qb why are you looking to move him? He’s young, has talent around him and will continue to grow as a qb. So why move him now unless someone will overpay?
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby Tripwired » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:08 am

I'd keep him since it's a 16 teamer. Count your lucky stars you have him. I'd be trying to move Fitzmagic instead. Here's how I see things. Mahomes will regress some. He has to, right? He's not going to toss 80 tds. However, if you move him for tevin and mariota(injured and I think he's borderline sucky anyway) then that means you're starting Fitzy right now with Mariota's nerve issue. Pretty soon Fitz will realize he's.....well, Ryan Fritzpatrick!!! He'll have a garbage game or two and they'll probably end up going back to Winston. Now, you're stuck with a backup qb and an injured guy whom gets hurt seemingly every year. Nah, I'll take the young high floor/high ceiling QB and just keep on rolling. That's just me though
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Re: Selling Patrick Mahomes?

Postby colonnaj94 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:37 am

Thanks for the responses guys.. What if I could get Matt Stafford, Tevin Coleman, Ian Thomas and Cole Beasley for Mahomes? - I'm not the biggest Stafford fan but at least he's going to be playing every week? (Thomas and Beasley are just throw-ins but this person has like 6 TEs and I kinda need a TE2/TE3 option?)
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QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

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RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

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WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
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