Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

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Which Side? Kamara + for DJ+

Kamara + Brandon Cooks
20
87%
David Johnson + Keelan Cole
3
13%
 
Total votes: 23

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Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby The.Big.Spank » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:58 pm

Which side?

10 team, PPR, 1QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 FLEX
Last edited by The.Big.Spank on Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby McCloskey22 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:00 pm

Is that Brandin Cooks?

If so - give me Kamara and Cooks by a landslide
12 team league - 1/2 ppr, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (WR/RB/TE)


QB - Dak Prescott , Alex Smith, Sam Darnold
RB - Ezekiel Elliott , Carlos Hyde , James White, TY Montgomery, Ronald Jones
WR - Mike Evans , Davante Adams , Dez Bryant, Robby Anderson, Zay Jones, Courtland Sutton
TE - Hunter Henry, Tyler Eifert, Rico Gathers, RSJ

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby The.Big.Spank » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:02 pm

Yes, Brandon Cooks
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby Dunville » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:02 pm

Kamara >= DJ

Cooks > Cole
12 Team 1 pt PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex 1K
QB Stroud Tua
RB Bijan, Gibbs, Jamaal, CEH, Allgeier, Brown
WR Hill, JJ, AJB, Keenan, ReedReed, Thielen, Boyd, Iosivas, Tucker
TE Hockenson Ferguson,
K Elliot
1DT 2DE 3LB 1CB 2S 1Flex
DT Donald Zach Allen
DE Crosby, Van Ness, Turner, Wonnum,
LB Greenlaw, Kendricks, Bernard, Mosley, McFadden, Barton, Overshown, Cashman, Henley
CB Stream
S Bynum, Blankenship fuller, grant,
2024 - 1.03, 3.05, 3.12, 6th
2025 2, 3,4,5,6

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:10 pm

I would rather have Kamara than DJ, but they are pretty close no matter which side you prefer. It's not remotely up for debate between Cooks and Cole though. This trade is easily Kamara/Cooks side.

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby Failurebytopher » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:11 pm

Piling on for Kamara/Cooks.
12 Team PPR - QB/2RB/3WR/2 Flex

QB - Kyler Murray, Matt Stafford, Teddy Bridgewater

RB - Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Josh Jacobs, Joshua Kelley, Alexander Mattison, Myles Gaskin, Mike Davis

WR - Julio Jones, Tyreek Hill, Chris Godwin, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin, Josh Reynolds, John Hightower, Quintez Cephus, Gabriel Davis, Darnell Mooney, Malcolm Perry

TE - Evan Engram, TJ Hockenson, Ian Thomas, Kaden Smith

Picks —

2021: early-mid 1st,
2022: 1,3,4

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby The.Big.Spank » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:16 pm

I guess my problem with pulling the trigger on this trade is this:

I don't trust Kamara's health. Last year was the first time he played a full season. At 215 lbs he is a touch on the small side and his role as a workhorse back is questionable, but the points still appear to be there.

I don't buy that Kamara > DJ. He is bigger, just as fast, just as good a receiver. I am not overly concerned with Airzona's offense, or Johnson's role in it. Matt Forte played with a crappy Bears team and was a RB1 for 7 years.

Kamara is perhaps more spectacular, but Johnson is bigger, more touches and probably more fantasy points while being as effecient as Kamara, who will be in a committee soon when Johnson wont.

I have never been as high on Cooks as others. He has struck me as a upgraded version of TY Hilton. Both will win you a couple weeks singlehandledly, and both will kill you in others as they are boom or bust WR's.

Cole on the other hand, who is also the long ball threat more than PPR monster leads the Jags in targets last year and is right there again this year. I see him as a lower ceiling, but much more steady producer.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby Ryantacular » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:19 pm

Kamara side easily for me. Would take Kamara over DJ straight up. Would also take cooks over Dj straight up

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:25 pm

can only doubt kamara for so long. arizona is also incredibly bad to the point you should absolutely be worried about dj. they didnt make it past their own 45 yard line till late in the game on sunday.

https://deadspin.com/bleep-team-of-the-we ... 1829120688
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby Goddard » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:34 pm

This shouldn't be close. Kamara and DJ are close and wouldn't fault anyone for picking either. But the gap between Cooks and Cole is huge.

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby The.Big.Spank » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:53 pm

ok, ok, I usually don't bend, but this is a whitewash. I plan on flipping Cooks anyway and after thinking about it, since I am flipping him, Cooks has a ton more name recognition than Cole and would bring a better price tag back.

#agreeingwithrossstinks (thats, hashtag, agreeing with Ross stinks) btw Ross, did you notice that I got JuJu off the team you drafted him for. Traded him the 1.3 and 1.8 for his 2019 1st and JuJu, very happy with that trade.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Trade Poll Kamara + for David Johnson +

Postby Titans95 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:47 pm

Glad you went with Kamara. At this point I would be stunned if DJ outscores Kamara on the year and looking forward DJ is 26 vs Kamara 23. Cooks is obviously >>Cole. You should be worried about DJ on Arizona's offense. They aren't utilizing him properly at all which is a huge coaching error. I think we can all agree Gurley is a beast yet in 2016 he looked dreadful...it wasn't his fault it was terrible coaching.


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