Engram/Burton gap?
Engram/Burton gap?
Getting a bit nervous about Wentz for team 2. I like Burton, and have some concerns over Engram.
How does this offer look? This is a 2 QB league, 10 team.
Engram and DaeSean Hamilton (maybe Allison?)
for
Burton and Dalton
How does this offer look? This is a 2 QB league, 10 team.
Engram and DaeSean Hamilton (maybe Allison?)
for
Burton and Dalton
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TE: Hunter Henry -Austin Hooper | Irv Smith Jr.
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RB: Joe Mixon | Dalvin Cook | Nick Chubb -Mark Ingram | Royce Freeman | Justice Hill | Matt Breida | Bernard | Jonathan Williams
WR: Davante Adams | Mike Evans | Julio Jones -Sammy Watkins | John Brown | DeVante Parker | Deebo Samuel | Nelson Agholor | Terry McLaurin
TE: Evan Engram -Hunter Henry | Ian Thomas | Jacob Hollister
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RB: Saquon Barkley | David Johnson -Breida | Duke | Armstead | D. Harris | J. Samuels
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TE: Hunter Henry -Austin Hooper | Irv Smith Jr.
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QB: Russell Wilson | Baker Mayfield -Carson Wentz
RB: Joe Mixon | Dalvin Cook | Nick Chubb -Mark Ingram | Royce Freeman | Justice Hill | Matt Breida | Bernard | Jonathan Williams
WR: Davante Adams | Mike Evans | Julio Jones -Sammy Watkins | John Brown | DeVante Parker | Deebo Samuel | Nelson Agholor | Terry McLaurin
TE: Evan Engram -Hunter Henry | Ian Thomas | Jacob Hollister
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
this isnt close at all. dalton and burton by miles. the other votes are from people who dont know 2qb leagues i suppose, or maybe they dont know who burton is haha
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
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Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
This. Dalton is worth at least a second if not a first in a 2qb league even if it’s 10 teamsBigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:21 am this isnt close at all. dalton and burton by miles. the other votes are from people who dont know 2qb leagues i suppose, or maybe they dont know who burton is haha
QB: Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold
RB: Kareem Hunt, Christian McCaffrey, Duke Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Rashaad Penny, James Conner, Sony Michel, Nyheim Hines, Jamal Williams
WR: Amari Cooper, Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry, Randall Cobb, Albert Wilson, Trequan Smith
TE: Trey Burton, OJ Howard, Austin Sefarian-Jenkings,
Def: Detroit and Los Angeles Rams
Kicker: Jake Elliot
2019: 2 1sts 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2020: 3z firsts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th,
2021: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2022: 1 st, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th
QB/3WR/2RB/TE/Kicker/Def/Flex/Superflex
Half PPR
RB: Kareem Hunt, Christian McCaffrey, Duke Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Rashaad Penny, James Conner, Sony Michel, Nyheim Hines, Jamal Williams
WR: Amari Cooper, Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry, Randall Cobb, Albert Wilson, Trequan Smith
TE: Trey Burton, OJ Howard, Austin Sefarian-Jenkings,
Def: Detroit and Los Angeles Rams
Kicker: Jake Elliot
2019: 2 1sts 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2020: 3z firsts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th,
2021: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2022: 1 st, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th
QB/3WR/2RB/TE/Kicker/Def/Flex/Superflex
Half PPR
Re: Engram/Burton gap?
Ya, I voted Engram, but I think you'll be fine with the combo of Tyrod/Baker as your QB2 (until wentz is back). But also, I don't play 2qb much, so I could be way off.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:21 am this isnt close at all. dalton and burton by miles. the other votes are from people who dont know 2qb leagues i suppose, or maybe they dont know who burton is haha
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WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
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WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
Teams with Dalton as their QB2 very seldom win 2QB leagues. Especially 10 teamers. Burton is just an idea right now and people are banking waaaaaaaay too much on all the Chicago assets.
Based on all the forum hyperbole:
Howard is an RB1
Tarik is going to put up RB2 PPR numbers
ARob is a WR1
Miller will be a PPR dynamo WR 2/3
AND...
Burton is going to break out as a top 8 TE.
All with a QB starting his first complete season in a very tough division.
Okay, sounds great.
Based on all the forum hyperbole:
Howard is an RB1
Tarik is going to put up RB2 PPR numbers
ARob is a WR1
Miller will be a PPR dynamo WR 2/3
AND...
Burton is going to break out as a top 8 TE.
All with a QB starting his first complete season in a very tough division.
Okay, sounds great.
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K - B. Aubrey
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
These young offensive minded HC's have kick started a lot of offenses with the way the rules are set up nowadays against defenses.cvbuc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:40 pm Teams with Dalton as their QB2 very seldom win 2QB leagues. Especially 10 teamers. Burton is just an idea right now and people are banking waaaaaaaay too much on all the Chicago assets.
Based on all the forum hyperbole:
Howard is an RB1
Tarik is going to put up RB2 PPR numbers
ARob is a WR1
Miller will be a PPR dynamo WR 2/3
AND...
Burton is going to break out as a top 8 TE.
All with a QB starting his first complete season in a very tough division.
Okay, sounds great.
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
TE 8 last year was jack Doyle who was catching balls from jacoby Brissett. He recorded 690 and 4.cvbuc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:40 pm Teams with Dalton as their QB2 very seldom win 2QB leagues. Especially 10 teamers. Burton is just an idea right now and people are banking waaaaaaaay too much on all the Chicago assets.
Based on all the forum hyperbole:
Howard is an RB1
Tarik is going to put up RB2 PPR numbers
ARob is a WR1
Miller will be a PPR dynamo WR 2/3
AND...
Burton is going to break out as a top 8 TE.
All with a QB starting his first complete season in a very tough division.
Okay, sounds great.
Burton in a limited row recorded 260 and 5. Now he’s being upgraded to a full time position, with a qb who does relatively well throwing to the middle. I don’t think 690 and 4 is hyperbolic. If anything, thats probably Burton’s ceiling if he sees 100 targets, which is very attainable in the Nagy offense.
QB: Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold
RB: Kareem Hunt, Christian McCaffrey, Duke Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Rashaad Penny, James Conner, Sony Michel, Nyheim Hines, Jamal Williams
WR: Amari Cooper, Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry, Randall Cobb, Albert Wilson, Trequan Smith
TE: Trey Burton, OJ Howard, Austin Sefarian-Jenkings,
Def: Detroit and Los Angeles Rams
Kicker: Jake Elliot
2019: 2 1sts 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2020: 3z firsts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th,
2021: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2022: 1 st, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th
QB/3WR/2RB/TE/Kicker/Def/Flex/Superflex
Half PPR
RB: Kareem Hunt, Christian McCaffrey, Duke Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Rashaad Penny, James Conner, Sony Michel, Nyheim Hines, Jamal Williams
WR: Amari Cooper, Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry, Randall Cobb, Albert Wilson, Trequan Smith
TE: Trey Burton, OJ Howard, Austin Sefarian-Jenkings,
Def: Detroit and Los Angeles Rams
Kicker: Jake Elliot
2019: 2 1sts 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2020: 3z firsts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th,
2021: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2022: 1 st, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th
QB/3WR/2RB/TE/Kicker/Def/Flex/Superflex
Half PPR
Re: Engram/Burton gap?
I agree with damn near all of that, but I would argue that Engram is subject to the same degree of hype and that Dalton would be his QB3 behind whichever of Taylor/Mayfield is starting. I also think Hamilton is a decent speculative add, but I would try to negotiate for more.cvbuc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:40 pm Teams with Dalton as their QB2 very seldom win 2QB leagues. Especially 10 teamers. Burton is just an idea right now and people are banking waaaaaaaay too much on all the Chicago assets.
Based on all the forum hyperbole:
Howard is an RB1
Tarik is going to put up RB2 PPR numbers
ARob is a WR1
Miller will be a PPR dynamo WR 2/3
AND...
Burton is going to break out as a top 8 TE.
All with a QB starting his first complete season in a very tough division.
Okay, sounds great.
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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
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TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
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WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
2QB best ball...gotta be Dalton
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WR - C. Lamb, J.Jeudy, J. Jefferson, H. Ruggs, D.Mims, L.Shenault, P.Campbell, Z.Pascal, A. Lazard
TE - T.Hockenson, B.Jarwin, D.Knox, J.Smith
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QB-RBx2-WRx2-SF-FLX
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WR -Evans, Smith-Schuster, Golladay, C. Godwin, T.Higgins, A. Lazard
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QB - S.Darnold, D.Lock
RB - J. Taylor, CEH, K. Hunt, A.McFarland, R.Armstead, D.Evans, D. Dallas, L.Bowden
WR - C. Lamb, J.Jeudy, J. Jefferson, H. Ruggs, D.Mims, L.Shenault, P.Campbell, Z.Pascal, A. Lazard
TE - T.Hockenson, B.Jarwin, D.Knox, J.Smith
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
Engram side for me. It’s 2 QB but I wouldn’t trade my high upside TE1 here for what will be your QB4.
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
Almost all of this was correct except you underrated Miller, he will be an elite WR1 for the next ten years.cvbuc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:40 pm Teams with Dalton as their QB2 very seldom win 2QB leagues. Especially 10 teamers. Burton is just an idea right now and people are banking waaaaaaaay too much on all the Chicago assets.
Based on all the forum hyperbole:
Howard is an RB1
Tarik is going to put up RB2 PPR numbers
ARob is a WR1
Miller will be a PPR dynamo WR 2/3
AND...
Burton is going to break out as a top 8 TE.
All with a QB starting his first complete season in a very tough division.
Okay, sounds great.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
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2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: Engram/Burton gap?
Dalton Burton side in 2 QB. Regarding the "buying Chicago" negative narrative; seems like TE is very involved in the offense and Burton seems to be real deal. Engram has the big name and hype but thanks to Barkely pick, he's likely looking at a QB issue in the future and target share loss in the near future.
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
x2BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:21 am this isnt close at all. dalton and burton by miles. the other votes are from people who dont know 2qb leagues i suppose, or maybe they dont know who burton is haha
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Re: Engram/Burton gap?
Life of Pablo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:52 amAlmost all of this was correct except you underrated Miller, he will be an elite WR1 for the next ten years.cvbuc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:40 pm Teams with Dalton as their QB2 very seldom win 2QB leagues. Especially 10 teamers. Burton is just an idea right now and people are banking waaaaaaaay too much on all the Chicago assets.
Based on all the forum hyperbole:
Howard is an RB1
Tarik is going to put up RB2 PPR numbers
ARob is a WR1
Miller will be a PPR dynamo WR 2/3
AND...
Burton is going to break out as a top 8 TE.
All with a QB starting his first complete season in a very tough division.
Okay, sounds great.
You got to be joking. I mean you could be right if you think Golden Tate is also an elite WR1
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RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
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WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
2018, 2021 Champion
QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals
2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3
2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up
Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020
QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
Re: Engram/Burton gap?
Engram is a far superior player.
Burton is getting plenty of hype but he is not real fast, has small hands and short arms. Pretty much a big slow slot WR. Engram will get 40 more targets at least IMO. Teams run very basic defenses in preseason. I wouldn't get too excited about his prospects. He will be the 4th option in the passing game IMO. Burton could be a top 10-15 WR. Engram is top 5 quality TE.
Burton is getting plenty of hype but he is not real fast, has small hands and short arms. Pretty much a big slow slot WR. Engram will get 40 more targets at least IMO. Teams run very basic defenses in preseason. I wouldn't get too excited about his prospects. He will be the 4th option in the passing game IMO. Burton could be a top 10-15 WR. Engram is top 5 quality TE.
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