Selling high on Carson
Selling high on Carson
With the Penny news breaking I figure now is a great time to get off Mr. Carroll’s wild ride. I’m targeting Jordan Howard to shore up my running back core for the long haul. Would Hilton and Carson for Howard and either Stills or a 2/3 be too much?
Team #1
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
Re: Selling high on Carson
I think that deal is perfectly fair, although I’d rather have Hilton than Howard
I would ask for Stills
I would ask for Stills
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Re: Selling high on Carson
you would be ripping yourself off imo
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Selling high on Carson
I think you gain in your RB positional value and lose in WR value for your overall team composition. Depending how you feel about everyone after AB (assuming Brown is Antonio), its a mostly fair trade. I don't think I would offer this because I think Hilton will do exceedingly well this year to offset what production you'd gain from Howard over Carson. But I totally understand cashing in on Carson's high value, especially from Penny's recent injury.
Good luck!
Good luck!
12 team .5PPR super-flex | Championship 2015, 2017
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1SF, 1flex, K, D/ST
QB: Brees, Wilson | Rosen, Darnold
RB: Gurley, Freeman | D.Williams, Drake, Breida, Foreman
WR: OBJ, M.Thomas, Juju | Alshon, Godwin, Tre'Quan, Samuel
TE: Howard | Brate, I.Thomas, Higbee
12 team .5PPR super-flex
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 1flex, K, D/ST
QB: Ryan, Goff | Trubisky, Rosen
RB: Conner, Chubb, | D.Williams, A .Jones, Royce, Ballage, Love, B.Anderson
WR: Hopkins, M.Thomas, Juju | Boyd, Sutton
TE: Howard | Irv, Shaheen
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1SF, 1flex, K, D/ST
QB: Brees, Wilson | Rosen, Darnold
RB: Gurley, Freeman | D.Williams, Drake, Breida, Foreman
WR: OBJ, M.Thomas, Juju | Alshon, Godwin, Tre'Quan, Samuel
TE: Howard | Brate, I.Thomas, Higbee
12 team .5PPR super-flex
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 1flex, K, D/ST
QB: Ryan, Goff | Trubisky, Rosen
RB: Conner, Chubb, | D.Williams, A .Jones, Royce, Ballage, Love, B.Anderson
WR: Hopkins, M.Thomas, Juju | Boyd, Sutton
TE: Howard | Irv, Shaheen
Re: Selling high on Carson
Seems fine to me. Hilton and Howard are close. I'd rather have Stills over Carson.
Re: Selling high on Carson
Yeah I love Hilton this season but I feel long term having three top running backs all under 25 is huge. I also have exactly zero RB depth and I feel good that at least one of my young WRs will blow up.
Team #1
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
Re: Selling high on Carson
Are you not very high on Howard, really high on Carson or what?
Team #1
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
Re: Selling high on Carson
Yeah Brown is AB. My feeling is that while this year I probably lose the deal moving forward having Howard as my third high level starter under 25 is better than whatever Hilton will give me for the next two years he has at his current production level. I also am pretty confident that one of Miller, Godwin, or Sutton will blow up in the next two/three years.n20 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:21 am I think you gain in your RB positional value and lose in WR value for your overall team composition. Depending how you feel about everyone after AB (assuming Brown is Antonio), its a mostly fair trade. I don't think I would offer this because I think Hilton will do exceedingly well this year to offset what production you'd gain from Howard over Carson. But I totally understand cashing in on Carson's high value, especially from Penny's recent injury.
Good luck!
Team #1
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
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Re: Selling high on Carson
This thread should have TY Hilton and Jordan Howard in the title, not Carson. This is essentially Hilton for Howard with pieces thrown in on each side, this is not selling high on Carson at all (at least not in the traditional sense). He has little value compared to both of those players and does not do much to swing the needle.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: Selling high on Carson
Fair enough, I put him in the title because he was the guy the Howard owner rescheduled out to me about. I would still say though that this is selling him high, as before the Penny injury I don’t really think this is a trade that would be accepted. While Hilton may be overall a better asset than Howard the lack of solid RB depth this season makes it pretty hard to trade for rb without giving one up. I feel that now Carson is able to get you closer to fetching one of those guys now than he was 24 hours ago. That being said I see your point the title probably should’ve been Hilton and HowardLife of Pablo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:13 pm This thread should have TY Hilton and Jordan Howard in the title, not Carson. This is essentially Hilton for Howard with pieces thrown in on each side, this is not selling high on Carson at all (at least not in the traditional sense). He has little value compared to both of those players and does not do much to swing the needle.
Team #1
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
12 Team 0.5 PPR
2018 CHAMPS
QB: Wilson, Rodgers
RB: CMC, Foreman, D. Harris, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Godwin, ARSB, Diontae, Sutton, Pickens, Pierce
TE: Andrews, Freiermuth, Chig
2023: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 4th
Team #2
12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Saquon, CMC, Gibson, Swift, Pollard, Conner, Penny
WR: Lamb, DJ Moore, Aiyuk, Cooper, Cooks, Gallup, Bateman, Lockett, Campbell
TE: Hockenson
2023: 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
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