Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

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Which side?

Penny/Michel
5
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Rodgers/Johnson
9
64%
 
Total votes: 14

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Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby psu007 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:22 am

For team 1 in my sig.

I'd send Rashaad Penny and Sony Michel
I'd receive Aaron Rodgers and Kerryon Johnson

Thoughts on this trade? Helps me right now and I'm definitely win now mode, but I hope I'm not selling to quick on these RB's.
Team 1 - 12 Team, PPR, All 6TD

1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, K, D

QB - Cousins, Luck, Mayfield
RB - Elliot, Thompson, McKinnon, Penny, Michel, Miller, E.McGuire, Foreman, Ekeler
WR - OBJ, Robinson, K.Allen, C.Davis, Allsion, M.Bryant, C.Coleman, Moncrief, P.Richardson, Chark
TE - Reed, Gathers, Shaheen, Seals-Jones
K - Jake Elliott
D - NE, MIA
Picks - 2019: 3-5

Team 2 - 12 Team, SF 0.5 PPR, 4/6TD

1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1SF, 1FLEX, 1TE

QB - Cousins, Goff, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jackson
RB - Gurley, Ingram, Coleman, Clement, Booker, Rawls, Samuels
WR - Hilton, Fuller, Moore, Byrant, Locket, Moncrief, Rogers, Miller, St.Brown,
TE - Gesicki, Clay, McDonald, Andrews
Picks - 2019: 1,2,3x2,4

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Nightmares » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:43 am

With your scoring I do that deal.

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby psu007 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:56 am

Nightmares wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:43 am With your scoring I do that deal.
You think the 6pt TD pushes it over?
Team 1 - 12 Team, PPR, All 6TD

1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, K, D

QB - Cousins, Luck, Mayfield
RB - Elliot, Thompson, McKinnon, Penny, Michel, Miller, E.McGuire, Foreman, Ekeler
WR - OBJ, Robinson, K.Allen, C.Davis, Allsion, M.Bryant, C.Coleman, Moncrief, P.Richardson, Chark
TE - Reed, Gathers, Shaheen, Seals-Jones
K - Jake Elliott
D - NE, MIA
Picks - 2019: 3-5

Team 2 - 12 Team, SF 0.5 PPR, 4/6TD

1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1SF, 1FLEX, 1TE

QB - Cousins, Goff, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jackson
RB - Gurley, Ingram, Coleman, Clement, Booker, Rawls, Samuels
WR - Hilton, Fuller, Moore, Byrant, Locket, Moncrief, Rogers, Miller, St.Brown,
TE - Gesicki, Clay, McDonald, Andrews
Picks - 2019: 1,2,3x2,4

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:31 am

you can drop mccarron foles and kelly. i think that trade is ok im not the biggest stud qb guy tho i kinda dont care who my qb is and kirk is totally fine. but you currently dont have a backup qb so this would make sense that you upgrade qb and only lose 1 rb and swap rookie for rookie so i would prob ultimately pull the trigger.
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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Ice » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:44 am

With your team I like the deal. Johnson is lighting up camp and close to those two. Looks like a slight overpay but situation makes it worth it IMO.
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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby psu007 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:17 am

Yeah to reply to everyone, I'm totally fine with Cousins as my main QB, but even in a 1QB there's no denying the advantage Rodgers can provide. I'm also getting really high on Kerryon. Wanted to trade back in our rookie draft from 1.05 where I took Michel, but no one was interested.
Team 1 - 12 Team, PPR, All 6TD

1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, K, D

QB - Cousins, Luck, Mayfield
RB - Elliot, Thompson, McKinnon, Penny, Michel, Miller, E.McGuire, Foreman, Ekeler
WR - OBJ, Robinson, K.Allen, C.Davis, Allsion, M.Bryant, C.Coleman, Moncrief, P.Richardson, Chark
TE - Reed, Gathers, Shaheen, Seals-Jones
K - Jake Elliott
D - NE, MIA
Picks - 2019: 3-5

Team 2 - 12 Team, SF 0.5 PPR, 4/6TD

1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1SF, 1FLEX, 1TE

QB - Cousins, Goff, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jackson
RB - Gurley, Ingram, Coleman, Clement, Booker, Rawls, Samuels
WR - Hilton, Fuller, Moore, Byrant, Locket, Moncrief, Rogers, Miller, St.Brown,
TE - Gesicki, Clay, McDonald, Andrews
Picks - 2019: 1,2,3x2,4

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Nightmares » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:24 am

psu007 wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:56 am
Nightmares wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:43 am With your scoring I do that deal.
You think the 6pt TD pushes it over?
Yes, Cousins is okay, but with 6pts per td, Rodgers is gold.

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby MEuRaH » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:28 am

I had Rodgers in a 6pt passing TD league for 3 years. Made the playoffs all 3 years. Traded him away the following year and didn't come close.

I love the Rodgers/Johnson side.
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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Goddard » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:40 am

I'm leaning towards the Penny/Michel side. I think most will agree that between Penny and Michel, one of them is worth somewhere between the 1.02-1.03. That's more than fair value for Rodgers. Whoever you value less between Penny and Michel, is still worth much more than Johnson.

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Titans95 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:43 am

Goddard wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:40 am I'm leaning towards the Penny/Michel side. I think most will agree that between Penny and Michel, one of them is worth somewhere between the 1.02-1.03. That's more than fair value for Rodgers. Whoever you value less between Penny and Michel, is still worth much more than Johnson.
I agree with this, also the upgrade from Rodgers to Kirk I don't expect to be THAT much....you can never have too many RB's and having 2 out of the top 5 from this years rookie class is solid. If you are panicking on Penny or Michel then trade them to the KJ owner + something. no need to give up both

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby psu007 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:15 am

Titans95 wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:43 am
Goddard wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:40 am I'm leaning towards the Penny/Michel side. I think most will agree that between Penny and Michel, one of them is worth somewhere between the 1.02-1.03. That's more than fair value for Rodgers. Whoever you value less between Penny and Michel, is still worth much more than Johnson.
I agree with this, also the upgrade from Rodgers to Kirk I don't expect to be THAT much....you can never have too many RB's and having 2 out of the top 5 from this years rookie class is solid. If you are panicking on Penny or Michel then trade them to the KJ owner + something. no need to give up both
Not panicking. I've been looking for a second QB for a while, and to me Rodgers is the only one that moves the needle in a way that I'd feel an advantage. Basically I'm trying to build the nastiest team I can to win. I'm torn b/c I know Michel and Penny could be big fantasy assets, but Johnson could as well.

Going by this deal, what amount would be fair to ask on top of Rodgers and KJ?
Team 1 - 12 Team, PPR, All 6TD

1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, K, D

QB - Cousins, Luck, Mayfield
RB - Elliot, Thompson, McKinnon, Penny, Michel, Miller, E.McGuire, Foreman, Ekeler
WR - OBJ, Robinson, K.Allen, C.Davis, Allsion, M.Bryant, C.Coleman, Moncrief, P.Richardson, Chark
TE - Reed, Gathers, Shaheen, Seals-Jones
K - Jake Elliott
D - NE, MIA
Picks - 2019: 3-5

Team 2 - 12 Team, SF 0.5 PPR, 4/6TD

1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1SF, 1FLEX, 1TE

QB - Cousins, Goff, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jackson
RB - Gurley, Ingram, Coleman, Clement, Booker, Rawls, Samuels
WR - Hilton, Fuller, Moore, Byrant, Locket, Moncrief, Rogers, Miller, St.Brown,
TE - Gesicki, Clay, McDonald, Andrews
Picks - 2019: 1,2,3x2,4

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Titans95 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:38 pm

psu007 wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:15 am
Titans95 wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:43 am
Goddard wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:40 am I'm leaning towards the Penny/Michel side. I think most will agree that between Penny and Michel, one of them is worth somewhere between the 1.02-1.03. That's more than fair value for Rodgers. Whoever you value less between Penny and Michel, is still worth much more than Johnson.
I agree with this, also the upgrade from Rodgers to Kirk I don't expect to be THAT much....you can never have too many RB's and having 2 out of the top 5 from this years rookie class is solid. If you are panicking on Penny or Michel then trade them to the KJ owner + something. no need to give up both
Not panicking. I've been looking for a second QB for a while, and to me Rodgers is the only one that moves the needle in a way that I'd feel an advantage. Basically I'm trying to build the nastiest team I can to win. I'm torn b/c I know Michel and Penny could be big fantasy assets, but Johnson could as well.

Going by this deal, what amount would be fair to ask on top of Rodgers and KJ?
A 19 2nd at most. The value is probably there to be fair for the original offer but to me I don't like giving up a high draft pick for a QB even if he is the best, especially a RB that I think is going to be great.

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Igwebuike 4 Prez » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:58 pm

If you're in win now mode and looking to improve your starting lineup, Rodgers/Johnson. You're still 4 deep at RB with the trade.

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:32 pm

Try to include mayfield and ask for another piece back.

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Re: Penny/Michel for Rodgers/Johnson

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:31 am

I really don't like Johnson, so that's what would make me lean the Penny/Michel side. I would think that in 1QB, one of those RBs alone would be enough for Rodgers. I'd counter one of them straight up for Rodgers, or at most one of them + 2019 2nd.
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