Jarvis Landry vs JuJu

[Bigsexy85]

Which one do you prefer? Im in a rebuild and just traded Landry for JuJu plus picked up a second round pick in 2020. I think Landry will struggle for consistent targets with Gordon, Callaway, Njoku coming on, and all the RB’s they have. JuJu I think has more upside would like to get the opinions of the forum. Thanks

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Well, you already made the trade so it's a bit moot, isn't it? I'd definitely rather have Landry over JuJu and the gap is more than a 2nd round pick two years out.

[Royal26]

Well, you already made the trade so it's a bit moot, isn't it? I'd definitely rather have Landry over JuJu and the gap is more than a 2nd round pick two years out.

I agree. Even if you're not sold on Landry, you should have received a bigger haul than Juju and a future 2nd.

[Ice]

Wow,

Landry has more receptions than any WR EVER in his first 4 years. TRY 400. He also will have a QB in Baker that is one of the most accurate passers to come out in a long time. In 4 years he has scored 66 TD's worth of points just in receptions.

Not sure WTF you were thinking here but maybe asking for advice in an advice forum prior to getting fleeced would have made more sense. I like Ju Ju but you got crushed in this trade.

Landry is a great player in PPr leagues. He is money every week.

[Titans95]

I think this is a bit of an overreaction everyone...Yes I'd Prefer Landry over Juju and a pick but the value isn't THAT off. Juju won't be 22 until mid season and was extremely prolific as a rookie, his future is very very bright. Jarvis definitely has some question marks moving forward on a new team. For a guy thats in "rebuild" 4 years younger at WR isn't terrible.

On a side note I think Landry is being undervalued in redraft ADP but they are going fairly close to each other so that just goes to show that Juju is keeping up with Jarvis this year and it could very well be the same next year as well especially of Bell leaves.

[bigbuck22]

Well, you already made the trade so it's a bit moot, isn't it? I'd definitely rather have Landry over JuJu and the gap is more than a 2nd round pick two years out.

Agree. The difference is a mid 1st minimum for me. While good, Juju is classically overvalued in my eyes at this point.

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I think this is a bit of an overreaction everyone...Yes I'd Prefer Landry over Juju and a pick but the value isn't THAT off. Juju won't be 22 until mid season and was extremely prolific as a rookie, his future is very very bright. Jarvis definitely has some question marks moving forward on a new team. For a guy thats in "rebuild" 4 years younger at WR isn't terrible.

On a side note I think Landry is being undervalued in redraft ADP but they are going fairly close to each other so that just goes to show that Juju is keeping up with Jarvis this year and it could very well be the same next year as well especially of Bell leaves.

These two statements are really just reflective of the over-valuation of age, not production. If you think they can be close production-wise, then I guess the deal is fine. I expect the two to be quite far apart in production that those 4 years don't matter if I'm trading a weekly starter for a bye week fill-in.

[Goddard]

I would have kept Landry. He's young enough where you can build around or with him with in a rebuild and probably make the process quicker. You mentioned you're worried about Landry struggling for targets, but Juju has much more competition on his team for targets.

[Titans95]

I think this is a bit of an overreaction everyone...Yes I'd Prefer Landry over Juju and a pick but the value isn't THAT off. Juju won't be 22 until mid season and was extremely prolific as a rookie, his future is very very bright. Jarvis definitely has some question marks moving forward on a new team. For a guy thats in "rebuild" 4 years younger at WR isn't terrible.

On a side note I think Landry is being undervalued in redraft ADP but they are going fairly close to each other so that just goes to show that Juju is keeping up with Jarvis this year and it could very well be the same next year as well especially of Bell leaves.

These two statements are really just reflective of the over-valuation of age, not production. If you think they can be close production-wise, then I guess the deal is fine. I expect the two to be quite far apart in production that those 4 years don't matter if I'm trading a weekly starter for a bye week fill-in.

I was talking about the fact that Juju and Jarvis are being drafted at similar spots in REDRAFT which I admit I disagree with and will take Jarvis everytime but I was just illustrating the fact that the "market" is valuing these guys similary THIS year let alone long term. Don't get me wrong trading AB for Juju because of Age is stupid but when you're talking about guys that are within the same realm of potential production THIS year then yeah 4 years is a pretty big deal in a rebuild. looking at his team it looks like its YEARS away from competing so it will absolutely be beneficial to take Juju long term for multiple reasons....

[Titans95]

I would have kept Landry. He's young enough where you can build around or with him with in a rebuild and probably make the process quicker. You mentioned you're worried about Landry struggling for targets, but Juju has much more competition on his team for targets.

Again let me preface that I wouldn've taken LAndry here but I'm just defending him that he didn't get "fleeced".

Worst case for Juju is his career arc turns into a Sammy Watkins type career and 4 years later we are still seeing him go for 1.06ish in rookie drafts right now from some. all the while helping Juju owner have a much higher draft pick each year because of the less production.

Worst case for Jarvis is he plays second fiddle to Gordon and finishes around WR20-24 this year and his value plummets pretty quickly....and now you have a 27 year old WR instead of a 23 year old WR who still holds value regardless of performance.

as for the targets the difference is Juju's ypc was 15.8 while Landry's career average is like 10....he needs top 5 WR target count to produce back end WR1 numbers.

[BigBawseRoss]

i love this thread its my favorite of all time. Landry is getting respect, people are seeing juju for what he is, and everyone is making sense! This is a miracle!!!

[jomaed]

Current value wise, you won IMO. JuJu is being drafted ahead of Jarvis and is currently ranked very similarly by many so called "experts." That said, I agree with others that I would rather have Landry. He is one of those players that never seems to get the respect he deserves given the numbers he puts up.

[hockeyBjj]

I own both. I like Juju. I like his potential. I've turned down "fair" trade offers to move him away

But Landry has been the WR #3, 11, and 4 the last 3 years in ppr leagues and is still only 25. He's done that all on a dumpster fire team with garbage at quarterback

Even if he has some target regression, you're still looking at a shoe in for a WR1 with a beautiful weekly floor.

As for all the competition for touches, Gordon hasn't even come to camp, Njoku keeps dropping balls, and Calloway was already in the NFL's substance abuse program and got flagged for pot. Seems to be another idiot not long for the league and facing more than just a 2 game suspension this year

Also, as a counterpoint to his target regression, with him lining up outside more there could be enough increased yardage to make up for the few catch points

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

I would take JuJu over Landry straight up

[hudini33]

I would take JuJu over Landry straight up

Could you explain your reasoning here? I'm curious