snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

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snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:29 am

this is kinda weird but im holding a dispersal draft for 2 new owners as one team was super good and the other super bad lol. but i was gonna just do alternating picks since its only 2 dudes but got to thinking and the person who randomly goes first gets the edge as they will get 1 more "good" player and also gets first choice so they get the "best" player too.

so i was thinking it might be more fair to have it go ABBAABBAABBAA etc.


any thoughts or am i overthinking it and it wont make any major difference to do it old school playground picking teams style?
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:35 am

Who are the players in the pool? Number of top dogs available will determine which is more fair. I think you're on the right track though and that does sound better. Advantage probably lies with team B now getting to pick 2 and 3, but it's less unfair than team A getting picks 1 and 3
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby sloth8u » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:57 am

id strongly suggest going ababab. ive seen some 2man despersals go very badly when going with the abbaabbaabb. if everything were as simple as each owner taking best player available according to some sort of rankings....sure the abbaabbaabb...would make sense. it doesnt work like that. owners may follow some rankings but ultimately those continuous back to back picks can really give 1 team an advantage over the rest of the league and can vice versa leave a dispersal team with junk aswell...

this can obviously happen using ababab aswell, but it is much less likely because of the rotating picks.

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby NFL-ons » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:15 am

IMO..You have to go snake. Question, did the dominant team request being dispersed or r u forcing it?

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby sloth8u » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:42 am

figured that i would share this here. its from another current thread, and why you can never count on an owner taking "most value" or try to guess how an owner will run their team. obj went 7 in this dispersal.
RCS wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:25 am
hudini33 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:14 am I can't speak to the IDP side, but how in the world did you get OBJ and Hopkins? Along with Landry as your 3?!
Dispersal Draft had 4 other people in it I had pick 4

Went
Antonio Brown
Deshan Watson
Zeke
I took Hopkins
Guy then took Tom Brady and Keenan Allen
I snapped up OBJ

I traded Dede Westbrook and 1.9 for Landry day or two before the rookie draft

Complete luck I got Nuk and OBJ but I'll take it

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby Johnny Canuck » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:48 am

Why not just do a mini auction?

The bidding will be a little funny as it'll be so top heavy, but you get a shot at everyone. As long as you have seasoned owners bidding, and it's not their first rodeo with an auction. Imo that's the most fair method.

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby EAGLES » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:54 am

Go snake. You can’t predict owner valuations. I was a part of a SuperFlex 2 owner dispersal draft earlier this year. I had the 1st pick and was pissed about it. In the end, I like my team better then the other owner’s team due to him making some jumps on players; so, it worked out. Disclaimer: this dispersal draft was stacked with talent though.

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby abloom » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:58 am

Has to be snake, otherwise pick 1 has a clear advantage
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby moishetreats » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:26 am

Pick 1 > Pick 2
Pick 3 > Pick 4
Pick 5 > Pick 6
...and so on...

Yeah, the owner with the odd-numbered picks has an advantage in every round (!!) if you do not snake.

What you could do to alleviate the issue of snaking and confusion is go ABBA BABABABA... Just absolutely not ABABABABAB
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby hudini33 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:30 am

I don't think you can snake. The player who was way better before the dispersal should get pick 1 and all odd number picks. He's already getting shafted by giving up his dominant roster, he should get an advantage in this dispersal. If I was the team that was "way too good" I wouldn't have it any other way, because now I have to give up a lot of good players and probably some prize money.
No One 12-team, 21 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, FLEX, D/ST, K) 0-0 EST. 2017

2018, 2021 Champion

QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals

2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3

2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up


Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020

QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble

2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby EAGLES » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:34 am

hudini33 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:30 am I don't think you can snake. The player who was way better before the dispersal should get pick 1 and all odd number picks. He's already getting shafted by giving up his dominant roster, he should get an advantage in this dispersal. If I was the team that was "way too good" I wouldn't have it any other way, because now I have to give up a lot of good players and probably some prize money.
From what I see, they’re both new owners taking over 2 teams that left the league. One of those teams had a strong team the other not so much.

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby hudini33 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:36 am

EAGLES wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:34 am
hudini33 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:30 am I don't think you can snake. The player who was way better before the dispersal should get pick 1 and all odd number picks. He's already getting shafted by giving up his dominant roster, he should get an advantage in this dispersal. If I was the team that was "way too good" I wouldn't have it any other way, because now I have to give up a lot of good players and probably some prize money.
From what I see, they’re both new owners taking over 2 teams that left the league. One of those teams had a strong team the other not so much.
Again, why is the guy with the really good team getting punished then? Unless he asked for the dispersal, he shouldn't be punished for jumping on a good orphan squad.
No One 12-team, 21 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, FLEX, D/ST, K) 0-0 EST. 2017

2018, 2021 Champion

QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals

2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3

2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up


Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020

QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble

2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby EAGLES » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:39 am

hudini33 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:36 am
EAGLES wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:34 am
hudini33 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:30 am I don't think you can snake. The player who was way better before the dispersal should get pick 1 and all odd number picks. He's already getting shafted by giving up his dominant roster, he should get an advantage in this dispersal. If I was the team that was "way too good" I wouldn't have it any other way, because now I have to give up a lot of good players and probably some prize money.
From what I see, they’re both new owners taking over 2 teams that left the league. One of those teams had a strong team the other not so much.
Again, why is the guy with the really good team getting punished then? Unless he asked for the dispersal, he shouldn't be punished for jumping on a good orphan squad.
I don’t think the 2 new owners came in taking over a team. I would assume they both came in with the knowledge that there will be a dispersal draft of said players from the 2 teams that left. I could be wrong, but that’s typically how dispersals work so that new owners are more enticed to join when more then 1 team left the league

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:40 am

EAGLES wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:39 am
hudini33 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:36 am
EAGLES wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:34 am

From what I see, they’re both new owners taking over 2 teams that left the league. One of those teams had a strong team the other not so much.
Again, why is the guy with the really good team getting punished then? Unless he asked for the dispersal, he shouldn't be punished for jumping on a good orphan squad.
I don’t think the 2 new owners came in taking over a team. I would assume they both came in with the knowledge that there will be a dispersal draft of said players from the 2 teams that left. I could be wrong, but that’s typically how dispersals work so that new owners are more enticed to join when more then 1 team left the league
nailed it. just one team was trash and one was great so it didnt make any sense to offer a team to one owner and the bad team to another, so split it up and work from there.

neither owner has any dynasty experience and i ended up just going with ababab to keep it simple and as others said this wont necessarily lead to one team being better because people have differnt opinons or valuations. i didnt feel there was a distinct top 5 players only or whatever, no odd number of studs lets say that would make it seem like one team had a big edge. i actually have more faith in the owner who picked 2nd to pick a strong team or turn it into a contender quickly regardless of how it shapes up.

thanks for all responses it is an interesting thing to think about even though fairly basic.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: snaking dispersal with 2 owners??

Postby Goddard » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:22 am

I guess snake makes most sense.


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