I might be crazy for debating this but wanted to see others' opinions first. I'm in a 16 team league and the 2 QB's I have are currently Deshaun Watson & Andrew Luck.
The scoring in this league for QB's is:
- 6 points for TD's
- .05 points for every 1 passing yard
- .1 points for every pass completion
QB's score the highest in this league as the top 32 point scorers last season consisted of 23 QB's.
2017 Watson averaged 36.18 PPG while Wilson averaged 32.00 PPG. (However Watson played 9 less games and is 7 years younger)
So the owner of Russell Wilson is a huge Clemson fan and said he would trade him for Deshaun Watson 1 for 1. Should I do it?
Watson for Wilson??
Watson for Wilson??
16 Team PPR IDP
QB- Jimmy G Rivers Foles
RB- Bell Elliott Conner Michel
WR- Mi.Thomas Thielen Diggs D.Johnson Hardman Jo.Brown Lazard
TE- Hurst Fant Olsen Howard
QB- Jimmy G Rivers Foles
RB- Bell Elliott Conner Michel
WR- Mi.Thomas Thielen Diggs D.Johnson Hardman Jo.Brown Lazard
TE- Hurst Fant Olsen Howard
Re: Watson for Wilson??
I think most will say Wilson but I don’t think you’re crazy for debating it. I have Wilson-Watson as my 1-2 dynasty QBs (many will say I’m crazy). I think they are close and wouldn’t blame anyone for choosing either straight up. Wilson is the safer play but it’s basically a lateral move so I’d go with your gut.
Re: Watson for Wilson??
Not crazy I guess, but give me Wilson pretty easily. He's still fairly young, extremely proven, and one of the safest fantasy QBs you can have with one of the highest ceilings. Don't see any reason to move him for someone who you hope will produce maybe as good. I know you pointed out that Watson averaged more than Wilson last year, but I'd bet a lot of money that's not the case for next year and even the next 5.
Re: Watson for Wilson??
I agree with this, I think Wilson is the right move here, but debating Watson is not crazy at all.Goddard wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:13 pm Not crazy I guess, but give me Wilson pretty easily. He's still fairly young, extremely proven, and one of the safest fantasy QBs you can have with one of the highest ceilings. Don't see any reason to move him for someone who you hope will produce maybe as good. I know you pointed out that Watson averaged more than Wilson last year, but I'd bet a lot of money that's not the case for next year and even the next 5.
No One 12-team, 21 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, FLEX, D/ST, K) 0-0 EST. 2017
2018, 2021 Champion
QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals
2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3
2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up
Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020
QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
2018, 2021 Champion
QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals
2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3
2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up
Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020
QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
Re: Watson for Wilson??
I like Watson plenty as a potential top 5, but Wilson is my #1 QB. I'd make the trade pretty easily.
If you can't leave at least a 20% tip, you can't afford to eat out.
Re: Watson for Wilson??
I’d be interested what a poll result would look like. You should consider adding one.
10 Team - Full PPR
QB - Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB - Chubb, Bell, Conner, Lindsay, McKinnon
WR - Adams, OBJ, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Cooks, Crowder, Watkins
TE - Engram, Goedert, Howard, Knox
QB - Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB - Chubb, Bell, Conner, Lindsay, McKinnon
WR - Adams, OBJ, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Cooks, Crowder, Watkins
TE - Engram, Goedert, Howard, Knox
Re: Watson for Wilson??
It'd be Wilson by quite a bit
No One 12-team, 21 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, FLEX, D/ST, K) 0-0 EST. 2017
2018, 2021 Champion
QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals
2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3
2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up
Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020
QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
2018, 2021 Champion
QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals
2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3
2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up
Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020
QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
Re: Watson for Wilson??
I definitely think so. And I’d vote Wilson too. But it would be voting my #1 dynasty QB over my #2 so not a lopsided deal to me.
Re: Watson for Wilson??
Right, a poll wouldn't do this deal justice
No One 12-team, 21 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, FLEX, D/ST, K) 0-0 EST. 2017
2018, 2021 Champion
QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals
2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3
2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up
Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020
QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
2018, 2021 Champion
QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals
2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3
2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up
Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020
QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble
2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4
Re: Watson for Wilson??
I think I'd take Watson, but most ADP sites have them really close.
12 team 2QB/2TE Devy League
2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2FLEX
.5ppr
QB Murray, Daniels, Garopollo, Heinicke, Book, Rattler
RB Mixon, A Jones, Fournette, Damien Harris, Foreman, Tevin Coleman, J Patterson, Hilliard, Tank Bigsby (D)
WE Evans, Godwin, Kupp, Chark, G Davis, Cobb, T Marshall, Lazard, D Brown, D Bell, Eskridge, M Terrance, Cam Sims, Kayshon Boutte (D), Joe Ngata (D)
TE Everett, P Brown, I Thomas, Parham, Jaeden Graham, Ian Smith, Hunter Bryant
2022 Picks: 2.11, 3.07, 3.11
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2FLEX
.5ppr
QB Murray, Daniels, Garopollo, Heinicke, Book, Rattler
RB Mixon, A Jones, Fournette, Damien Harris, Foreman, Tevin Coleman, J Patterson, Hilliard, Tank Bigsby (D)
WE Evans, Godwin, Kupp, Chark, G Davis, Cobb, T Marshall, Lazard, D Brown, D Bell, Eskridge, M Terrance, Cam Sims, Kayshon Boutte (D), Joe Ngata (D)
TE Everett, P Brown, I Thomas, Parham, Jaeden Graham, Ian Smith, Hunter Bryant
2022 Picks: 2.11, 3.07, 3.11
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Re: Watson for Wilson??
Wilson is only 30 years old...and has been proving it for years, Watson was spectacular but come on it was a 9 game stretch....What if he is the next RG3? I don't think he will be but choosing a player thats played 9 games over a QB thats been a top 6 QB pretty much every year he's healthy is dumb
Re: Watson for Wilson??
Wilson is my #1 dynasty QB. Definitely him, but Watson is my #4 so you're not crazy for having the top 5 in a jumbled order than my own preferences
Wilson is safer, has shown it under a myriad of conditions, and has pretty much the same upside anwyays
You get more years out of Watson, and maybe 5% more upside, but the risk is much more massive. Teams could have figured him out like they did Kaepernick, or he could be an injury riddled RG3
You have neither of those downsides with Wilson, and much more stability and has legit had full seasons as the #1 QB in fantasy
Wilson is safer, has shown it under a myriad of conditions, and has pretty much the same upside anwyays
You get more years out of Watson, and maybe 5% more upside, but the risk is much more massive. Teams could have figured him out like they did Kaepernick, or he could be an injury riddled RG3
You have neither of those downsides with Wilson, and much more stability and has legit had full seasons as the #1 QB in fantasy
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
Re: Watson for Wilson??
Wilson is also my QB 1 right now, but I actively shopped him for Watson+, no dice.
Also I want to echo thoughts on a poll, only useful info there would be a poll with options for how far apart in value they are imo.
Also I want to echo thoughts on a poll, only useful info there would be a poll with options for how far apart in value they are imo.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
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Re: Watson for Wilson??
This would be like trading Stafford for Rodgers right after Stafford's career year. I'd take Wilson ASAP.
Kittles Pox | Championships: 2015, 2017
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
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