Trey Burton draft value?
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Trey Burton draft value?
Hello friends,
One of the mostly forgotten parts of our annual summer rookie draft is that free agents are also included in the pool of available players. In most years, that doesn't really amount to much. However, our league also has a three-year contract policy on all players to increase roster activity, so a few names have made it into this year's pool.
At the top of the list of non-rookie free agents that could be drafted this year is Trey Burton. My roster below (team 1) has a reasonable hole to fill after Hunter Henry went down, although Kyle Rudolph is very capable starter, and Burton would be a nice fill-in for a contending team.
So, the question becomes what is Burton's value in terms of draft picks? The latest round of ADP data from this fine site puts him 13th on the list, in between the likes of Christian Kirk, Courtland Sutton, Michael Gallup, and Anthony Miller. What would you pay in 2018 picks to get Burton? Is he even worth the investment now that he's signed a big contract?
One of the mostly forgotten parts of our annual summer rookie draft is that free agents are also included in the pool of available players. In most years, that doesn't really amount to much. However, our league also has a three-year contract policy on all players to increase roster activity, so a few names have made it into this year's pool.
At the top of the list of non-rookie free agents that could be drafted this year is Trey Burton. My roster below (team 1) has a reasonable hole to fill after Hunter Henry went down, although Kyle Rudolph is very capable starter, and Burton would be a nice fill-in for a contending team.
So, the question becomes what is Burton's value in terms of draft picks? The latest round of ADP data from this fine site puts him 13th on the list, in between the likes of Christian Kirk, Courtland Sutton, Michael Gallup, and Anthony Miller. What would you pay in 2018 picks to get Burton? Is he even worth the investment now that he's signed a big contract?
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- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
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12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
10 team, PPR, 22-man rosters, 5 PS. 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1PK 1DST
- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
Team 2
12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
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Re: Trey Burton draft value?
mid 2nd prob right around those wr, i have him after sutton, miller and kirk but before gallup
didnt understand that last line about the big contract but i wouldnt focus on it as a negative that the guy got paid starter money (assuming you meant it was a bad thing)
didnt understand that last line about the big contract but i wouldnt focus on it as a negative that the guy got paid starter money (assuming you meant it was a bad thing)
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Trey Burton draft value?
That last line was mostly just noting that Burton has now gotten paid as opposed to being in a contract year or the like which could have motivated him into over-performing.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:42 am mid 2nd prob right around those wr, i have him after sutton, miller and kirk but before gallup
didnt understand that last line about the big contract but i wouldnt focus on it as a negative that the guy got paid starter money (assuming you meant it was a bad thing)
Team 1
10 team, PPR, 22-man rosters, 5 PS. 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1PK 1DST
- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
Team 2
12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
10 team, PPR, 22-man rosters, 5 PS. 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1PK 1DST
- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
Team 2
12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
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Re: Trey Burton draft value?
Typically rookie fever might be able to help him slide in draft but he is getting quite a bit of hype. I would still probably stand pat at 2.09 and hope he falls.
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QB: Luck, Wentz,
RB: Gurley, Zeke, Mixon, DLewis, Eckler, Clement, Ware, MalcomB, Ballage(TS), Wilkins(TS)
WR: DAdams, AJG, Corey Davis, KennyG, Tate, GAllison, JGordon, MVS, Isaih Mckenzie, Richie James
TE: Ertz, Burton, Jesse James
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RB: Mixon, Kerryon, AJones, Mack, JWhite, Breida, CThompson, McGuire, Perine, Clement, Ballage, Wilkins
WR: OBJ, Evans, Woods, Diggs, Robby Anderson, Mike Williams, Robert Foster MLee, GAllison, Isaih McKenzie, Jon Ross, CWilliams, Tread
TE: Ertz, Brate, RSJ, Roberts
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QB: Luck, Wentz,
RB: Gurley, Zeke, Mixon, DLewis, Eckler, Clement, Ware, MalcomB, Ballage(TS), Wilkins(TS)
WR: DAdams, AJG, Corey Davis, KennyG, Tate, GAllison, JGordon, MVS, Isaih Mckenzie, Richie James
TE: Ertz, Burton, Jesse James
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QB: Goff, Mariotta, Big Ben,
RB: Mixon, Kerryon, AJones, Mack, JWhite, Breida, CThompson, McGuire, Perine, Clement, Ballage, Wilkins
WR: OBJ, Evans, Woods, Diggs, Robby Anderson, Mike Williams, Robert Foster MLee, GAllison, Isaih McKenzie, Jon Ross, CWilliams, Tread
TE: Ertz, Brate, RSJ, Roberts
DL: JJ, Fowler, DHunter, Allen, JReed, Arik Armstead, Hubbard, TLewis, DArmstrong
LB: Leonard, Clowney, Telvin, Whitehead, Warner, Burks, Malik Jefferson
DB: Collins, Jefferson, McDonald, JWhitehead
Re: Trey Burton draft value?
I believe someone did a study about fantasy production on contract years and it was debunked as a myth. at 26 years old wouldn't you think if he performs well he will get an even bigger contract on his next deal? Thats a pretty nice motivation on its own, not to mention most nfl contracts are not even close to fully guaranteed to that big number you see its that big unless he produces. With that being said I would take him before WAshington/Pettis but not before Kirk/Gallup/Miller in the second round.OCPunisher wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:57 amThat last line was mostly just noting that Burton has now gotten paid as opposed to being in a contract year or the like which could have motivated him into over-performing.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:42 am mid 2nd prob right around those wr, i have him after sutton, miller and kirk but before gallup
didnt understand that last line about the big contract but i wouldnt focus on it as a negative that the guy got paid starter money (assuming you meant it was a bad thing)
Re: Trey Burton draft value?
Yes, bigger contract year performances is a myth. I did my own study on it a few years ago.
As to the question at hand, I'd put Burton at a mid second round rookie pick. I like the idea of pairing him with Kyle Rudolph as Rudolph has been so TD dependent.
As to the question at hand, I'd put Burton at a mid second round rookie pick. I like the idea of pairing him with Kyle Rudolph as Rudolph has been so TD dependent.
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Re: Trey Burton draft value?
His value is roughly early 2nd but I would not buy at that price, his value is inflated due to hype. I’d go as high as mid 2nd if all my targets where gone (I like grabbing Pettis in mid 2nd)
You might be able to get him with your 2.09 as that is a 2.07 in 12 team leagues and I was valuing Burton in that format. If you could make a small deal to move up a few spots when it’s getting close I’d do it to make sure, if you really want him.
You might be able to get him with your 2.09 as that is a 2.07 in 12 team leagues and I was valuing Burton in that format. If you could make a small deal to move up a few spots when it’s getting close I’d do it to make sure, if you really want him.
Re: Trey Burton draft value?
Im always interested in others studies, happen to have anything left from that study?
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RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
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RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
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TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
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WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
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QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
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Re: Trey Burton draft value?
Yes, I do have the data. Send me a private message with your email, I'll send it. I can't get it to upload to this forum.
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Re: Trey Burton draft value?
Mid 2nd sounds right.
Re: Trey Burton draft value?
I grabbed him in our draft at 2.04.
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RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker
Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo
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QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker
Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo
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Re: Trey Burton draft value?
Do you think he's worth moving up to get at that price?
Team 1
10 team, PPR, 22-man rosters, 5 PS. 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1PK 1DST
- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
Team 2
12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
10 team, PPR, 22-man rosters, 5 PS. 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1PK 1DST
- QB: Herbert, Goff
- RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Achane, Akers, Dobbins, Gibson, Pacheco, Carter, Warren
- WR: AJB, Wilson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Pittman, Zay, Jameson, Godwin, Palmer
- TE: Andrews, Goedert, Freiermuth, Engram
2016 and 2018 champion!
Team 2
12 team, PPR, 40-man rosters, 1QB 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
- QB: Herbert, Dalton, Minshew
- RB: Barkley, Swift, Herbert, JWilliams, Roschon, Zeke, KIngram, McFarland
- WR: Lamb, Waddle, DK, Aiyuk, MWilliams, Keenan, ARob, Woods
- TE: Andrews, Engram, Moreau, Trautman, Ruckert
Re: Trey Burton draft value?
Honestly depends on what you'd have to give up and how your league values TEs. He very well could slide to you at 2.09, but I doubt that he does. If you could package your 2.09 with a smaller piece, without having to give up way too much, I'd do it. Otherwise, I'd just stand pat.
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2019 and 2020 Champion
QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker
Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo
Picks- 2023: 1.02, 1.11, 2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.10, 4.11
2019 and 2020 Champion
QB- Mahomes / Purdy
RB- Barkley / Pollard / Kamara / Brian Robinson / Dillon / Charbonnet / Dowdle
WR- ARSB / Amari Cooper / Ridley / Diontae Johnson / Michael Thomas / Doubs / Wicks
TE- Goedert / Waller
D/ST- Bills / Dolphins / Chiefs
K- Butker
Taxi- Levis / Roschon Johnson / Jameson Williams / Michael Wilson / Okonkwo
Picks- 2023: 1.02, 1.11, 2.10, 2.11, 3.11, 4.10, 4.11
Re: Trey Burton draft value?
He was taken at 1.09 is our recent draft... With that said he went to a team that literally had no option at TE.... I had him pegged to go around 2.03-2.05 in our draft if this team had a TE option....PRESxWASHINGTON wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:06 am Typically rookie fever might be able to help him slide in draft but he is getting quite a bit of hype. I would still probably stand pat at 2.09 and hope he falls.
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QB (1): T. Lawrence R. Wilson, B. Young, S. Howell, D. Mills
RB (2-3): B. Robinson, N. Chubb, R. White, D. Pierce, C. Patterson, C. Edmonds, M. Carter, J. Warren, S. Conner, C. Brown
WR (3-4): D. Adams, J. Waddle, D. London, C. Olave, Calvin Ridley, J. Williams, C. Watson, E. Moore, K. Toney, J, L. Shenault, R. Moore, M Mims, J. Reed
TE (1-2): K. Pitts, S. Laporra, Cole Kmet,
DL (2-3): M. Parsons, TJ Watt, A Hutchinson, G. Karlaftis
LB (2-3): CJ Mosley, L. Vander Esch, Q. Williams
DB (2-3): D. James, K. Byard, J. Bates, T. Rapp, X.McKinney. D. Wilson
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QB (1): T. Lawrence R. Wilson, B. Young, S. Howell, D. Mills
RB (2-3): B. Robinson, N. Chubb, R. White, D. Pierce, C. Patterson, C. Edmonds, M. Carter, J. Warren, S. Conner, C. Brown
WR (3-4): D. Adams, J. Waddle, D. London, C. Olave, Calvin Ridley, J. Williams, C. Watson, E. Moore, K. Toney, J, L. Shenault, R. Moore, M Mims, J. Reed
TE (1-2): K. Pitts, S. Laporra, Cole Kmet,
DL (2-3): M. Parsons, TJ Watt, A Hutchinson, G. Karlaftis
LB (2-3): CJ Mosley, L. Vander Esch, Q. Williams
DB (2-3): D. James, K. Byard, J. Bates, T. Rapp, X.McKinney. D. Wilson
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