Am i asking for too much?

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Re: Am i asking for too much?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:54 pm

According to Fantasy Pros:

DJ has a dynasty ADP of 8.

Adams is 15. Cooks 25.

In a rebuild, swapping a 26 year old rb for a 25 year old top 10 wr and a 24 year old top 15 wr seems about as good as it gets.
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26 upman rosters - full point ppr
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RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
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Re: Am i asking for too much?

Postby playa_hata » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:52 pm

i think its super fair trade. but i dont value cooks more than a wr2 so idk i think a 2nd round pick could be added not a 1st
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)

TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
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Re: Am i asking for too much?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:04 am

do not sell DJ for that return. Adams and someone better than cooks i could see, but you asking for a 1st as well is perfectly reasonable imo.

people are freaking dumb being down on DJ for a wrist injury. how do you gt down on a guy with 2k and 20TD potential?!

adams has never hit 1k, i realize he is in a great spot but we can forecast his season all we want but we dont KNOW he will massively improve as the undisputed WR1.

cooks is going to his 3rd team in 3 years and is sure to see his numbers drop, goff spreads it and gurley is the focal point.
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12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

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Fields, Dak
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Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


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Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Am i asking for too much?

Postby Igwebuike 4 Prez » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:27 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:04 am do not sell DJ for that return. Adams and someone better than cooks i could see, but you asking for a 1st as well is perfectly reasonable imo.

people are freaking dumb being down on DJ for a wrist injury. how do you gt down on a guy with 2k and 20TD potential?!

adams has never hit 1k, i realize he is in a great spot but we can forecast his season all we want but we dont KNOW he will massively improve as the undisputed WR1.

cooks is going to his 3rd team in 3 years and is sure to see his numbers drop, goff spreads it and gurley is the focal point.
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Re: Am i asking for too much?

Postby thebeast » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:31 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:04 am do not sell DJ for that return. Adams and someone better than cooks i could see, but you asking for a 1st as well is perfectly reasonable imo.

people are freaking dumb being down on DJ for a wrist injury. how do you gt down on a guy with 2k and 20TD potential?!

adams has never hit 1k, i realize he is in a great spot but we can forecast his season all we want but we dont KNOW he will massively improve as the undisputed WR1.

cooks is going to his 3rd team in 3 years and is sure to see his numbers drop, goff spreads it and gurley is the focal point.
I agree with a lot of this. I remember, my second year in dynasty I was all excited because one of my WR's was ranked as the overall WR3, Hakeem Nicks, obviously, he never lived up to it. There's a big difference between what you are actually ranked and your production.

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Re: Am i asking for too much?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:21 am

You're asking for more?? Adams + Cooks >>> Johnson
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Re: Am i asking for too much?

Postby problemsolver » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:09 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:04 am do not sell DJ for that return.
Too late. :)
BigBawseRoss wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:04 am Adams and someone better than cooks i could see, but you asking for a 1st as well is perfectly reasonable imo.

people are freaking dumb being down on DJ for a wrist injury. how do you gt down on a guy with 2k and 20TD potential?!

adams has never hit 1k, i realize he is in a great spot but we can forecast his season all we want but we dont KNOW he will massively improve as the undisputed WR1.

cooks is going to his 3rd team in 3 years and is sure to see his numbers drop, goff spreads it and gurley is the focal point.
Your response is pretty much the argument i laid out to the other owner when i asked for another first (although Adams not breaking 1000 yards is a bogus argument....he reached 997 yards last year with Brett Hundley at QB and missed two games on top of that. Im far more concerned about concussions than i am about some arbitrary stat cut off point). But the concerns about Cooks in the Rams offense are real IMO.

But...

1) Both Adams and Cooks are young and have legit upside to be WR1's. Its a gamble i dont mind taking. There are enough long time posters in here saying the deal is fair that im ok with it.

2) Surprisingly there was not much of a market for DJ.....the next best offer i got was a 2018 1st, and 2019 3rd and a 2020 1st. Insert the biggest laughing smiley ever.

3) My team desperately needed to be blown up and blow it up i did. I was last in scoring at 86 pts per game...playoff teams averaged between 120-135 ppg....broke 110 pts 3 times, scored less than 90 eight times. I will be very much in the running for 1.01 next year.


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