Have an opp to trade my 2019 2nd (likely late) for the 2.09 this year, where I would take Rosen or Jackson(only non-QB I would otherwise consider is Kalen Ballage). Any thoughts on the better pick?
Appreciate any responses.
Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
12-team league, 1/2PPR, QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-TE-FLEX-FLEX-K
QB - Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purdy, Will Levis
RB -Bijan Robinson, Khalil Herbert, Kendre Miller, Samaje Perine, Matt Breida, Ronald Jones
WR - Chris Olave, DeVonta Smith, Marquise Brown, Ju-Ju Smith Schuster, Zay Flowers, Jonathan Mingo, Chase Claypool, John Metchie, Laviska Shenault, Michael Gallup, Cedric Tillman, Tre Tucker, Jajuan Jennings, Mack Hollins, Russell Gage, Dontayvion Wicks, Tyler Scott, Parker Washington
TE - Michael Mayer, Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker, Jeremy Ruckert
K - Harrison Butker
QB - Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purdy, Will Levis
RB -Bijan Robinson, Khalil Herbert, Kendre Miller, Samaje Perine, Matt Breida, Ronald Jones
WR - Chris Olave, DeVonta Smith, Marquise Brown, Ju-Ju Smith Schuster, Zay Flowers, Jonathan Mingo, Chase Claypool, John Metchie, Laviska Shenault, Michael Gallup, Cedric Tillman, Tre Tucker, Jajuan Jennings, Mack Hollins, Russell Gage, Dontayvion Wicks, Tyler Scott, Parker Washington
TE - Michael Mayer, Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker, Jeremy Ruckert
K - Harrison Butker
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
I'd go with Rosen, he's my QB1 in this class.
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
Take Rosen... I took him at 2.04 in my draft to give you an idea of where i value him
12 Team-1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1 PK 1 D/ST (30 man offseason rosters. Cut to 20 by week 1 / 0.5 PPR)
2023 2nd Place
QB: P. Mahomes, K. Cousins
RB: Bij. Robinson, K. Williams, D. Henry, N. Chubb, A. Gibson, C. Edwards-Helaire, L. Fournette
WR: J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, M. Evans, D. Hopkins, B. Cooks, Z. Jones, T. Atwell, C. Austin III
TE: M. Andrews, C. Otton
PK: J. Tucker
D/ST: Streaming
Taxi:
2024 Picks: 1.01, 2.03, 3.07, 4.03
2025 Picks: 2nd, 4th
2026 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
2023 2nd Place
QB: P. Mahomes, K. Cousins
RB: Bij. Robinson, K. Williams, D. Henry, N. Chubb, A. Gibson, C. Edwards-Helaire, L. Fournette
WR: J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, M. Evans, D. Hopkins, B. Cooks, Z. Jones, T. Atwell, C. Austin III
TE: M. Andrews, C. Otton
PK: J. Tucker
D/ST: Streaming
Taxi:
2024 Picks: 1.01, 2.03, 3.07, 4.03
2025 Picks: 2nd, 4th
2026 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
I'd rather gamble on Jackson.
12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
I went rosen over all the other qb's at 2.07. Most NFL ready QB for sure and good weapon offense
Wouldn't want to gamble on Jackson who may have just slightly more upside if any.
Wouldn't want to gamble on Jackson who may have just slightly more upside if any.
TEAM 1
12 team ppr dynasty
QB- M RYAN, M Trubisky, J Rosen, T Bridgewater
RB- D COOK, J HOWARD, N CHUBB, M BREIDA,C Hyde, D Foreman, F Gore, TJ Yeldon, J Samuels
WR- K ALLEN, T HILL, D ADAMS, R WOODS, J Doctson, M Valdes-Scantling, M Hollins, C Rodgers, J Moore, C Patterson
TE- T BURTON, H Henry, C Herndon, A Hooper,
K- R SUCCOP,
D- BEARS, Falcons
2019 picks- Rounds 1, 3
2020 picks- Rounds 1, 2, 3
2018 1st Place (regular season 23-3)
2018 trades
Traded T Eifert and 2019 2nd for Hunter Henry
Traded A Collins and K Stills for J Howard
TEAM 2
12 team, .20 per carry rb, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr te, superflex.
QB- M. Trubisky, D Prescott
, N Foles
RB- A. Kamara, J. Howard,
WR- S. Diggs, K. Golladay, A Humphries,
TE- D. Njoku, H. Henry, I. Thomas
12 team ppr dynasty
QB- M RYAN, M Trubisky, J Rosen, T Bridgewater
RB- D COOK, J HOWARD, N CHUBB, M BREIDA,C Hyde, D Foreman, F Gore, TJ Yeldon, J Samuels
WR- K ALLEN, T HILL, D ADAMS, R WOODS, J Doctson, M Valdes-Scantling, M Hollins, C Rodgers, J Moore, C Patterson
TE- T BURTON, H Henry, C Herndon, A Hooper,
K- R SUCCOP,
D- BEARS, Falcons
2019 picks- Rounds 1, 3
2020 picks- Rounds 1, 2, 3
2018 1st Place (regular season 23-3)
2018 trades
Traded T Eifert and 2019 2nd for Hunter Henry
Traded A Collins and K Stills for J Howard
TEAM 2
12 team, .20 per carry rb, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr te, superflex.
QB- M. Trubisky, D Prescott
, N Foles
RB- A. Kamara, J. Howard,
WR- S. Diggs, K. Golladay, A Humphries,
TE- D. Njoku, H. Henry, I. Thomas
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
I'd take Rosen as well but that's because I had Jackson at the bottom of the top 5 in this class.
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Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
For me, it depends on the scoring format in your league.
Is it 6pt passing TDs or 4pt?
In 4 pt and even 5 pt passing leagues, running QBs who achieve moderate passing results are like cheat codes where the weekly floor is terrific. I'm a Jackson fan. I also like Rosen.
I like the upside of Jackson more overall because of the rushing floor.
Is it 6pt passing TDs or 4pt?
In 4 pt and even 5 pt passing leagues, running QBs who achieve moderate passing results are like cheat codes where the weekly floor is terrific. I'm a Jackson fan. I also like Rosen.
I like the upside of Jackson more overall because of the rushing floor.
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs
2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 23 Man Active Roster / 3 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs
2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 23 Man Active Roster / 3 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
Rosen easily. I would even take Baker Mayfield before Jackson... or hold off and take Mason Rudolph later....
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Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
I hope Mayfield is already gone if he's choosing between Rosen and Jackson...
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Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
Jackson is my number 1 rookie QB in dynasty by a lot. I'd rather my pro team get Mayfield or Rosen, but my fantasy team? Give me Mike Vick 2.0.
Dynasty player since 2002.
I probably should have done something more productive with that time...
I probably should have done something more productive with that time...
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
I take (which I did) Jackson because of the Immense floor he could carry.
Other guys could just be middle of the pack QB's
Other guys could just be middle of the pack QB's
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
Honestly I like to take the shot on upside, Lamar has by far the highest fantasy upside among the QB class. Definitely a big bust potential, but remember how dominant Vick was in fantasy some of his years, and I think Lamar is a better passer than Vick was coming into the league. Just my two cents, but either is solid pick.
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Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
Rosen strictly for value but I'd rather have Jackson. So maybe draft Rosen and trade for Jackson +. Reading the reports and reviews on camp Jackson appears to be catching on fast and Rosen is struggling to adapt. It's still early so this can change. A positive for Rosen is he may end up in the driver's seat much sooner (this season) than Jackson. But with Jackson's rushing ability, I feel he will be much more dynamic which will translate to fantasy points. Boom!
*2016 3rd* *2017 CHAMP* 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K, 3 IDP, 1 Team DEF
QB - L Jackson, B Mayfield
RB - M Sanders, CE-Helaire, J Jacobs, M Brown, D Dallas, S Barkley, J Jackson, L McCoy
WR - M Thomas, A Brown, DJ Chark, B Edwards, M Pittman, D Johnson, P Williams, D Samuel
TE - T Higbee, D Goedert, M Gesicki, J Akins
K - J Tucker
IDP - J Collins, E Kendricks, L David
Def - Denver, Minnesota
2021 - 2 1sts
12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K, 3 IDP *2015 Champ* *3rd 2016* *2017 Champ*
QB - C Newton, J Winston, Tannehill
RB - T Gurley, M Sanders, J Conner, J McKinnon, M Brown, K Ballage, A Jones, S Michel, J Samuels, D Harris, R Penny
WR - O Beckham, D Hopkins, A Hurns, J Gordon, M Boykin, J Jeudy, D Johnson, H Ruggs, M Valdes-Scantling, P Williams
TE - N Fant, C Herndon, T, Hockenson
IDP - D Campbell, LJ Fort, J Collins, C Jones, E Wilson
QB - L Jackson, B Mayfield
RB - M Sanders, CE-Helaire, J Jacobs, M Brown, D Dallas, S Barkley, J Jackson, L McCoy
WR - M Thomas, A Brown, DJ Chark, B Edwards, M Pittman, D Johnson, P Williams, D Samuel
TE - T Higbee, D Goedert, M Gesicki, J Akins
K - J Tucker
IDP - J Collins, E Kendricks, L David
Def - Denver, Minnesota
2021 - 2 1sts
12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K, 3 IDP *2015 Champ* *3rd 2016* *2017 Champ*
QB - C Newton, J Winston, Tannehill
RB - T Gurley, M Sanders, J Conner, J McKinnon, M Brown, K Ballage, A Jones, S Michel, J Samuels, D Harris, R Penny
WR - O Beckham, D Hopkins, A Hurns, J Gordon, M Boykin, J Jeudy, D Johnson, H Ruggs, M Valdes-Scantling, P Williams
TE - N Fant, C Herndon, T, Hockenson
IDP - D Campbell, LJ Fort, J Collins, C Jones, E Wilson
Re: Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson
Jackson easily.
In dynasty you go upside and it's not close. If you miss go trade for Rivers and you have a QB for a year. Point is, it's not a position of limited supply. So I'll take the guy that can run for 800 yards if given a shot. Rather unique player.
In dynasty you go upside and it's not close. If you miss go trade for Rivers and you have a QB for a year. Point is, it's not a position of limited supply. So I'll take the guy that can run for 800 yards if given a shot. Rather unique player.
22-man, 12-team, 1 pt-PPR; Start 1-2RB; 3-4 WR; 1-2 TE
TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard
TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard
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