Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Who Wins

Getting Brady and AB
14
61%
Getting Luck and A.Rob
9
39%
 
Total votes: 23

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Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby mmass » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 pm

Deep League - 10 Teams - PPR
Starting QQRRWWTTFFKKDD

I trade Luck Brissett Cohen A.Rob 1.04 1.09

I get Brady AB Hyde Decker 1.08

Who Wins?

Team Deep2 in Sig
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby Ice » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:38 pm

AB side easily in a 10 team league.

Getting older at QB is never fun but you can recover. AB could get you a title. Brady is still a fantasy monster.
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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby Goddard » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:43 pm

I actually think it's the Luck side by a lot. 2QB league, Luck is the best piece by far.

Luck >> Brady
Arob < AB
Cohen/1.04/1.09 >>>>> Hyde/Decker/1.08

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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby Ice » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:50 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:43 pm I actually think it's the Luck side by a lot. 2QB league, Luck is the best piece by far.

Luck >> Brady
Arob < AB
Cohen/1.04/1.09 >>>>> Hyde/Decker/1.08
I would agree with you if this were a 12 team league but in a 10 team league winning is almost impossible without a boat load of studs.

Luck hasn't thrown in a long time. Pretty concerned about his shoulder structure. This is a win now move for sure.

AB is 10X better than Arob in this format. Subbing the best WR in fantasy for a question mark is huge in a 10 team league.
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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby Goddard » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:54 pm

Ice wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:50 pm
Goddard wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:43 pm I actually think it's the Luck side by a lot. 2QB league, Luck is the best piece by far.

Luck >> Brady
Arob < AB
Cohen/1.04/1.09 >>>>> Hyde/Decker/1.08
I would agree with you if this were a 12 team league but in a 10 team league winning is almost impossible without a boat load of studs.

Luck hasn't thrown in a long time. Pretty concerned about his shoulder structure. This is a win now move for sure.

AB is 10X better than Arob in this format. Subbing the best WR in fantasy for a question mark is huge in a 10 team league.
Even in a 10 team league where you have to start 2 QBs, that position is the most important. I love AB, but if I had to move around my values, I'd still take Luck over AB and Arob over Brady. I'd agree that this is a good win-now or redraft move, but in terms of dynasty value, I have to go with the Luck side, still. And then the rest of the pieces are easily in favor of the Luck with the two 1sts.

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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby B1GNate35 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:04 pm

I think I would take the ARob side. Don't like Luck, but I think the deciding factor in this trade is the 1.04/1.09 for 1.08. Here is my breakdown...

Brady = Luck (factoring in age and injury history)
AB > ARob (ARob has a chance to move up the WR rankings though, but AB is #1)
Hyde/Decker < Cohen
1.08 < 1.04/1.09

I'd say the trade is very even though, not going wrong either way.

Also, you have Brissett if Luck gets hurt...

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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby mmass » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:14 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:54 pm
Ice wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:50 pm
Goddard wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:43 pm I actually think it's the Luck side by a lot. 2QB league, Luck is the best piece by far.

Luck >> Brady
Arob < AB
Cohen/1.04/1.09 >>>>> Hyde/Decker/1.08
I would agree with you if this were a 12 team league but in a 10 team league winning is almost impossible without a boat load of studs.

Luck hasn't thrown in a long time. Pretty concerned about his shoulder structure. This is a win now move for sure.

AB is 10X better than Arob in this format. Subbing the best WR in fantasy for a question mark is huge in a 10 team league.
Even in a 10 team league where you have to start 2 QBs, that position is the most important. I love AB, but if I had to move around my values, I'd still take Luck over AB and Arob over Brady. I'd agree that this is a good win-now or redraft move, but in terms of dynasty value, I have to go with the Luck side, still. And then the rest of the pieces are easily in favor of the Luck with the two 1sts.

Kinda surprised God came out on this side. I thought the was an easy win for me. I hated taking on Brady but 1 or 2 good seasons will help me make a run or 2 at the title. AB certainty of A.Rob hopefullness any day. I just had too many shares of Luck... lol (2 of them) Again to much uncertainty. Cohen vs Hyde is a push to me... I could have had McCoy but opted for Hyde hoping he has a few good years left. 1.04 is really the only draft pick as I went from 1.09 to 1.08 for whatvits worth.

My view with the current view of the world and all the uncertainty.

Brady<Luck
AB>>A.Rob
Hyde=Cohen
1.08<<1.04 1.09

This was definitely a win now move for me and a rebuild move for him.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby Ice » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:26 pm

mmass wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:14 pm
This was definitely a win now move for me and a rebuild move for him.

In Dynasty it is never just about the long term view. Youth is great but titles are where it is at.


You won't win without Great Starters regardless of age. The odds of Luck and ARob coming close to Brady and AB this season are very long indeed. The other crap in the deal outside the picks are not even starters in a 10 team league and mean nothing. If any of those guys are starting you are not winning anything in a 10 team league.

When you are forced to go through rebuild in a few years you can look back on your bold moves that bring titles and realize you can do it again.

The real question is not which way these <> point; It is about projected starter points on a weekly basis. Those points bring or lose titles. You are plus 5 points weekly on average based on my projections by adding Brady and Brown to your line up.
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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby mmass » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:52 pm

I have 1.02 which I figure give me my young gun QB in Rosen then most likely another rb sitting at 1.08 ... not sure I will have a tough rebuild... Nuk and Evans are still young. Hopefully I will be able to ship AB in two years to someone going for a title
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:01 am

Robinson = Brady + 1.08
Brown = Luck + 1.04
1.09 + Cohen + Brissett >>> Hyde + Decker

I'd take the Luck side by quite a bit.
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Big Trade 2QB League Brady, Luck, AB, and more

Postby abloom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:01 am

Don't know his team but I think this is a win win. It's a win for you to win now, and it's a win for the other guy to build to future
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07


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