Massive trade!
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Re: Massive trade!
I prefer the Hopkins side.
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Re: Massive trade!
DJ side by alot,..... lol
Re: Massive trade!
My thoughts is even to Bell side by the final piece.
Bell=>DO
Thomas<<Hopkins
Howard>>Tate
I'm high on Nuk and low on DJ Howard and Tate
Bell=>DO
Thomas<<Hopkins
Howard>>Tate
I'm high on Nuk and low on DJ Howard and Tate
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SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
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Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
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Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
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Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
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Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
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Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
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Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart
2020 2 1st & 2nd
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Re: Massive trade!
I have it as:
Bell > DJ (not by much at all could be an =)
M. Thomas << Hopkins
Howard >>> Tate
I take the Bell side easily.
Bell > DJ (not by much at all could be an =)
M. Thomas << Hopkins
Howard >>> Tate
I take the Bell side easily.
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Re: Massive trade!
nuk side by a lot for me
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Re: Massive trade!
are you worried that Bell will not be a Steeler next season?
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
Re: Massive trade!
How is Bell's talent & production related to playing on the Steelers? It's not as though they were a powerhouse before he came to the team... He MAKES them great, not the other way around.
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Re: Massive trade!
I agree with this.Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:17 am I think it's fair, but I'd rather have the Hopkins side. DJ and Bell are basically even (I prefer Bell slightly), but I think Hopkins is worth a lot more than Thomas. Howard is obviously worth more than Tate, but not sure it closes the gap...definitely makes it close though.
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Re: Massive trade!
first, it was simply a question... but plenty of (great) players have switched teams and faltered (Moss(in Oakland), T Owens, DeMarco (in Philly)
i could argue the same for DJ...he makes that team great....and i think the Steelers were pretty great before Bell (they were in the super bowl without him) , Bell makes them more dangerous...
Bell=DJ... i don't think Bell will sit out the season...i believe he will play....Matt Williamson seems to believe that Bell will not be a Steeler next season... but i believe that DJ is in the last year of his contract too...so things may change for him as well...
Hopkins>MT...not too far apart
i think the trade is close...and it comes down to whether you are more comfortable starting J Howard or Tate..
i could argue the same for DJ...he makes that team great....and i think the Steelers were pretty great before Bell (they were in the super bowl without him) , Bell makes them more dangerous...
Bell=DJ... i don't think Bell will sit out the season...i believe he will play....Matt Williamson seems to believe that Bell will not be a Steeler next season... but i believe that DJ is in the last year of his contract too...so things may change for him as well...
Hopkins>MT...not too far apart
i think the trade is close...and it comes down to whether you are more comfortable starting J Howard or Tate..
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
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I'd keep the WR depth in a start 2 (you only have to start 1 RB), but I could see value either way.
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