Looking to settle a debate that’s getting no where
if you’re best player is D.henry and it’s not close and you already have 7 first in 2019.. are you selling Henry for 2 1st and a 2nd or are you holding him?
I have a owner telling me you shouldn’t sell Henry and he’s a player you build around. I’m in the mindset you always get value for a player regardless of how many 1st you have. And if you’re best player is Henry you are in trouble in our league it’s top heavy
Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Last edited by Boxseed on Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
1qb 2rb 2wr 1te 2 flex 1 D
Qb: luck cam Brady
Rb: Barkley, Mixon, mccaffrey, kerryon
Wr: k.allen,cooper, green, Hilton, Davis, Kirk,
Te: Kelce
Picks:
4 2020 1st
12tm 1qb 2rb 2wr 3 flex
Team 2
Rodgers Rivers Cousins
Barkley, kamara, cmac , R.freeman,
Nuk, Evans, hill, d.adams, scantling c.davis
Engram, ertz
2020 2 2nds
Qb: luck cam Brady
Rb: Barkley, Mixon, mccaffrey, kerryon
Wr: k.allen,cooper, green, Hilton, Davis, Kirk,
Te: Kelce
Picks:
4 2020 1st
12tm 1qb 2rb 2wr 3 flex
Team 2
Rodgers Rivers Cousins
Barkley, kamara, cmac , R.freeman,
Nuk, Evans, hill, d.adams, scantling c.davis
Engram, ertz
2020 2 2nds
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Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
2.5 1st? not sure what that means so ill take henry
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
2.5 1st is 2 1st and a 2nd
1qb 2rb 2wr 1te 2 flex 1 D
Qb: luck cam Brady
Rb: Barkley, Mixon, mccaffrey, kerryon
Wr: k.allen,cooper, green, Hilton, Davis, Kirk,
Te: Kelce
Picks:
4 2020 1st
12tm 1qb 2rb 2wr 3 flex
Team 2
Rodgers Rivers Cousins
Barkley, kamara, cmac , R.freeman,
Nuk, Evans, hill, d.adams, scantling c.davis
Engram, ertz
2020 2 2nds
Qb: luck cam Brady
Rb: Barkley, Mixon, mccaffrey, kerryon
Wr: k.allen,cooper, green, Hilton, Davis, Kirk,
Te: Kelce
Picks:
4 2020 1st
12tm 1qb 2rb 2wr 3 flex
Team 2
Rodgers Rivers Cousins
Barkley, kamara, cmac , R.freeman,
Nuk, Evans, hill, d.adams, scantling c.davis
Engram, ertz
2020 2 2nds
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Lewis was one of the most effective RB's in the NFL on a per touch basis last season.
I would be concerned about Henry as a lead back. Not a chance I would pay that price.
"Dion Lewis signed a 4 year, $19,800,000 contract with the Tennessee Titans, including a $2,250,000 signing bonus, $8,250,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $4,950,000. In 2018, Lewis will earn a base salary of $2,000,000, a signing bonus of $2,250,000 and a roster bonus of $1,750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,312,500 and a dead cap value of $5,750,000"
Teams don't Pay this kind of money unless they expect big things.
Nothing against Henry here BTW but this is going to be a Thunder/Lighting type situation.
I would be concerned about Henry as a lead back. Not a chance I would pay that price.
"Dion Lewis signed a 4 year, $19,800,000 contract with the Tennessee Titans, including a $2,250,000 signing bonus, $8,250,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $4,950,000. In 2018, Lewis will earn a base salary of $2,000,000, a signing bonus of $2,250,000 and a roster bonus of $1,750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,312,500 and a dead cap value of $5,750,000"
Teams don't Pay this kind of money unless they expect big things.
Nothing against Henry here BTW but this is going to be a Thunder/Lighting type situation.
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Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
If you're trying to build around a guy that's part of a brutal committee for the foreseeable future, you aren't gonna win very many championships. I would take the picks to aid with my rebuild
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
thomasscheeks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:35 pm If you're trying to build around a guy that's part of a brutal committee for the foreseeable future, you aren't gonna win very many championships. I would take the picks to aid with my rebuild
Yea that’s my opinion
1qb 2rb 2wr 1te 2 flex 1 D
Qb: luck cam Brady
Rb: Barkley, Mixon, mccaffrey, kerryon
Wr: k.allen,cooper, green, Hilton, Davis, Kirk,
Te: Kelce
Picks:
4 2020 1st
12tm 1qb 2rb 2wr 3 flex
Team 2
Rodgers Rivers Cousins
Barkley, kamara, cmac , R.freeman,
Nuk, Evans, hill, d.adams, scantling c.davis
Engram, ertz
2020 2 2nds
Qb: luck cam Brady
Rb: Barkley, Mixon, mccaffrey, kerryon
Wr: k.allen,cooper, green, Hilton, Davis, Kirk,
Te: Kelce
Picks:
4 2020 1st
12tm 1qb 2rb 2wr 3 flex
Team 2
Rodgers Rivers Cousins
Barkley, kamara, cmac , R.freeman,
Nuk, Evans, hill, d.adams, scantling c.davis
Engram, ertz
2020 2 2nds
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Depends on where the picks will end up. If confident they will be mid range at worst I’d consider it. You’d really own that draft next year!! If they’re late I’d hold
As for Henry himself, I still think Henry is talented and he is still young. Dion is good too but I’m not too worried about him. He has high probability of getting injured.
As for Henry himself, I still think Henry is talented and he is still young. Dion is good too but I’m not too worried about him. He has high probability of getting injured.
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Two random 1sts? Not sure I would. I think I'd need to know that one of them was at least early/mid.
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
I wouldn’t give more than a late 1st for Henry in ppr so picks easily for me.
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Henry is worth one mid first. Regardless of where the firsts land the picks have more value. Now there is something to be said for the fact that your own first (since Henry is your best player) will almost surely be the 1.01, but unless the two firsts are from the sure-fire 2 best teams then I don't see an issue with getting even more future picks in exchange for the somehow still vastly overrated Henry
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Sounds like he already has 7 so this would make it 9/12 1st for next year, essentially taking all of 2019 rookie draft as your roster. I could work out or it could be a bust though. If you had that many 1sts last year I couldn't be happier.
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Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
He's also NEVER played a full season before last season and only 54 out of 128 games. He's also never really produced outside of NEP.
Lewis doesn't worry me even a little as a Henry owner and even if he stays healthy he won't be in games the titans are winning. I would surprised if he even matched his rush totals last year.
With that said (and in high on Henry) Id be considering 2.5 1sts for my Henry depending on if I thought one of the firsts would be top2-4
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (13th year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave
T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (10th year)
QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods
T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (3rd year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave
T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (10th year)
QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods
T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (3rd year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride
Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
Lewis was healthy last year and finished 2nd in the league at 5.0 YPC. He was effective inside the tackles and outside. He also caught 32 of 35 targets.Favrezilla wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:49 pmHe's also NEVER played a full season before last season and only 54 out of 128 games. He's also never really produced outside of NEP.
Lewis doesn't worry me even a little as a Henry owner and even if he stays healthy he won't be in games the titans are winning. I would surprised if he even matched his rush totals last year.
With that said (and in high on Henry) Id be considering 2.5 1sts for my Henry depending on if I thought one of the firsts would be top2-4
Be prepared to be surprised. The new OC is already touting them as 1A and 1B.
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Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
I'm a big Henry fan and was discouraged by the unnecessary signing of Lewis. Frankly, I think it says more about their passing attack and weapons than it does about their backfield. Henry is easily worth more than a single 1st, probably closer to 2, but definitely getting two and a future 2nd I think I'd have to move him. That's a very good return for a guy who still has at least some questions about his role this upcoming season.
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Re: Derrick Henry trade.. give opinion Poll*
I’m higher on Henry.
I don’t think there’s a clear answer to this debate. I wouldn’t fault an owner for building around Henry with an otherwise bad team and a bunch of picks. And I wouldn’t fault an owner for taking that haul.
I don’t think there’s a clear answer to this debate. I wouldn’t fault an owner for building around Henry with an otherwise bad team and a bunch of picks. And I wouldn’t fault an owner for taking that haul.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
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