is this a fair offer? a one spot move up and essentially ingram for 1.08 and 2 mid seconds.
i like chubb and think he will be who i would take at 4 and see him also available at 5 and my team is a terrible rebuild orphan i took over so i wanna move ingram and thinking that at 8 i would get whoever is left of kerryon or royce and then take 2 WR at those mid 2nds.
is this a smart move for a rebuild or should i just hold ingram and take chubb at 4?
currently have wentz or brady at qb
ingram and a bunch of trash at rb (procise, ivory,ware,white)
Sammy,edleman,wilson,amendola, r mathews, other trash) at wr
Burton and brate at TE
my IDP is actually pretty good.
so my starting lineup on O def sucks and i feel like i need to take some shots and have very few pieces of worth in a trade.
1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
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1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I'd take the 1.5 side and it's not particularly close for me.
12 Team Dynasty | [12 x 24] | 2015 Runner Up | 2016 Runner Up | 2020 Champion
.5 PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, FLEX, K, DEF
|QB| Kyler, Dak
|RB| Cook, Chubb, JRob, Jacobs, Pollard, Mattison, Jeff Wilson, Gallman, TyβSon, Tony Jones, Rountree
|WR| DK, AJB, Nuk, Viska, Bryan Edwards
|TE| Kelce, Friarmuth
|K| Bass
|DEF| Pittsburgh
| 2022 |
| 2023 |
| 2024 |
.5 PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, FLEX, K, DEF
|QB| Kyler, Dak
|RB| Cook, Chubb, JRob, Jacobs, Pollard, Mattison, Jeff Wilson, Gallman, TyβSon, Tony Jones, Rountree
|WR| DK, AJB, Nuk, Viska, Bryan Edwards
|TE| Kelce, Friarmuth
|K| Bass
|DEF| Pittsburgh
| 2022 |
| 2023 |
| 2024 |
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
1.05 side by a lot.....especially for rebuild
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I think it is closer than others. 1.4 and 1.5 is basically the same (the difference between getting your choice of two of Guice, Penny, Chubb, Sony). I am not in love with the talent in the mid 2nd so I would try to get a player from him...someone like a Mike Williams?
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 β 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 β
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB β
RB β Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR β AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 β 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB β Joe Burrow
RB β Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR β Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE β Trey McBride
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1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
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WR β AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 β 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB β Joe Burrow
RB β Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR β Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE β Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 β 0
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Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
you dont think a mid/late first and 2 mid seconds is a good price for ingram? i get hes suspended 4 games but he is still worth a lot more than a kerryon johnson IMO
interesting i think it only appeals to rebuild cuz ingram is one of the leagues best and the options at 8,17,&19 are all kinda uninspiring.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I'm with you on this one...and as much love as Kamara is getting people need to realize that the Saints are going to run Ingram into the ground weeks 5-17 (and perhaps playoffs) since this is the last year on his contract. Honestly, if you cant get something else instead of the two 2s (maybe a 2019 1) I would hold Ingram until someone needs an RB mid season and gouge them.BigBawseRoss wrote: βWed Jun 20, 2018 6:39 amyou dont think a mid/late first and 2 mid seconds is a good price for ingram? i get hes suspended 4 games but he is still worth a lot more than a kerryon johnson IMO
interesting i think it only appeals to rebuild cuz ingram is one of the leagues best and the options at 8,17,&19 are all kinda uninspiring.
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 β 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 β
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB β
RB β Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR β AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 β 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB β Joe Burrow
RB β Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR β Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE β Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 β 0
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 β
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB β
RB β Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR β AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 β 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB β Joe Burrow
RB β Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR β Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE β Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 β 0
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I think you will have a hard time selling him now with the suspension. You can probably get this deal come week 4 or 5 but that will obviously be after your draft.BigBawseRoss wrote: βWed Jun 20, 2018 6:39 amyou dont think a mid/late first and 2 mid seconds is a good price for ingram? i get hes suspended 4 games but he is still worth a lot more than a kerryon johnson IMO
interesting i think it only appeals to rebuild cuz ingram is one of the leagues best and the options at 8,17,&19 are all kinda uninspiring.
My team in sig is a contender and if I was offered Ingram for that price I'd easily pass. I think there are other options in that tier that can be had cheaper and carry less risk.
12 Team Dynasty | [12 x 24] | 2015 Runner Up | 2016 Runner Up | 2020 Champion
.5 PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, FLEX, K, DEF
|QB| Kyler, Dak
|RB| Cook, Chubb, JRob, Jacobs, Pollard, Mattison, Jeff Wilson, Gallman, TyβSon, Tony Jones, Rountree
|WR| DK, AJB, Nuk, Viska, Bryan Edwards
|TE| Kelce, Friarmuth
|K| Bass
|DEF| Pittsburgh
| 2022 |
| 2023 |
| 2024 |
.5 PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, FLEX, K, DEF
|QB| Kyler, Dak
|RB| Cook, Chubb, JRob, Jacobs, Pollard, Mattison, Jeff Wilson, Gallman, TyβSon, Tony Jones, Rountree
|WR| DK, AJB, Nuk, Viska, Bryan Edwards
|TE| Kelce, Friarmuth
|K| Bass
|DEF| Pittsburgh
| 2022 |
| 2023 |
| 2024 |
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I have Ingram in a couple of leagues and can't get anything more than a single second for him right now. Nobody wants him, unless they can steal him. He is firmly at the level in which he will die on my roster, as I feel like he has a couple years of solid production left.
Given the situation for your team, I would take that offer in a heartbeat if it were offered to me. I would then try to separately add to the 2.05 and the 2.07 and try to move up to the 2.01-2.03, and try to get gallup/miller/Washington. I feel there is a huge tier break at that point, and getting a couple of these guys would kick-start your rebuild.
Given the situation for your team, I would take that offer in a heartbeat if it were offered to me. I would then try to separately add to the 2.05 and the 2.07 and try to move up to the 2.01-2.03, and try to get gallup/miller/Washington. I feel there is a huge tier break at that point, and getting a couple of these guys would kick-start your rebuild.
12 Team, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1FLEX (ppr) 30 man
QB-Rivers, Smith
RB-Gurley, Kerryon, DFreeman, CJ Anderson, Burkhead, Ware, Jonathan Williams, Carson, Kelly
WR-Evans, Cooks, Keenan, Diggs, Fuller, Miller, Meredith, J Gordon, JBrown, Hollins, Watson, Chadwill
TE-Gronk, Engram, Hurst, Seals-Jones
12 Team--1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1FLEX (ppr) 30 man
QB-Big Ben, Dalton
RB-Freeman, Ingram, Hyde, Gallman, Richard
WR-Evans, Arob, Golladay, CDavis, Marv. Jones, Gordon, Meredith, Gabriel, Richardson, Reynolds, Watson
TE-Kelce, Burton, Butt,
QB-Rivers, Smith
RB-Gurley, Kerryon, DFreeman, CJ Anderson, Burkhead, Ware, Jonathan Williams, Carson, Kelly
WR-Evans, Cooks, Keenan, Diggs, Fuller, Miller, Meredith, J Gordon, JBrown, Hollins, Watson, Chadwill
TE-Gronk, Engram, Hurst, Seals-Jones
12 Team--1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1FLEX (ppr) 30 man
QB-Big Ben, Dalton
RB-Freeman, Ingram, Hyde, Gallman, Richard
WR-Evans, Arob, Golladay, CDavis, Marv. Jones, Gordon, Meredith, Gabriel, Richardson, Reynolds, Watson
TE-Kelce, Burton, Butt,
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I'd take the picks especially in a rebuild but even if I wasn't unless my championship window was this year and only this year so I needed Ingram. I don't think maybe people would ever trade their top 8 rookie pick in this draft for Ingram so Its a win trade for you. Ingram is fantastic but he's suspended this year and is 29 on his last year with the saints...not that I see him completely falling off a cliff right away but how long does he have? 1 maybe 2 more years after that? Kerryon or Freeman are so much younger its worth taking a dip in production for 1-2 years to still have a guy that has 2 more years in their rookie deal and has value to trade unlike a guy that would be 32...think Demarco Murray. Also the 2.05 is kinda nice since I've seen Miller go there a lot but if you like M. Williams (I do) you could trade to package both 2nds for him? A lot of people are low on him for some reason even though last year was expected to be horrid since he didn't play 80% of the year.BigBawseRoss wrote: βWed Jun 20, 2018 6:39 amyou dont think a mid/late first and 2 mid seconds is a good price for ingram? i get hes suspended 4 games but he is still worth a lot more than a kerryon johnson IMO
interesting i think it only appeals to rebuild cuz ingram is one of the leagues best and the options at 8,17,&19 are all kinda uninspiring.
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I like the picks, though admittedly I'd like to move further up in the second. I think there is a drop off around 2.03
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
I don't really think Ingram would have been worth a mid 1st even if he wasn't suspended. I'd take the 1.05 side.
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
1.05 side.
Re: 1.04+Ingram vs 1.05,1.08,2.05,2.07
1.05 side for me
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