So i have traded marqise lee in two different leagues now for rookie picks on the clock both times to acquire dante pettis... I love lee as a break out candidate this year and im wondering if rookie hype is getting to my head. 1st trade it was Lee straight up for 3.01 with pettis sitting there essentially traded lee for pettis. the 2nd trade i traded marqise lee and a 19 3rd for Dante Pettis and a 19 2nd(this one i think i won due to the pick swap) but i later traded pettis for kyle rudolph. so that being said im curious if you all think i should have stuck with marqise lee or did a good job making those trades.
Trade 1:
Gave Marqise Lee
Got Dante Pettis
Trade 2:
(Part A) Gave Marqise Lee and 19 3rd
Got Dante Pettis and 19 2nd
(Part B) Gave Dante Pettis
Got Kyle Rudolph
So Essentially traded Marqise Lee and a 19 3rd for Kyle Rudolph and a 19 2nd
Marqise lee string of trades
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I like it, I really don't think Lee is very good at football but maybe that's just an opinion cause I can't produce stats to support that lol just the eye test and recent production. I like getting a top 10 TE for a WR3
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Re: Marqise lee string of trades
yeah i guess i should say the 1st trade is more so my worry i really like getting kyle rudolph AND a 19 2nd for Marqise and a 19 3rd but i really do think marq could break out this year and be a high end wr2 a la marvin jones last year busting out and being a high end wr2 (some would say low end wr1)
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RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
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QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
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TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
Re: Marqise lee string of trades
Thought I would copy my post from another thread on Lee. I get patience is wearing thin on Lee but when one does a deep dive I would suggest he is a strong value buy. He can be had cheap if you have decent negotiating skills.
Go back and look at weeks 6-14. He was dinged in 15 and 16. The Jags just paid him 38 million. He will be WR 1 this season with top 20 fantasy upside. The light bulb went off for him. Needs to stay healthy.
During that 8 game stretch he averaged 8.25 targets, 4 of those games 10 plus targets, 1 game 9 targets, 2 games 6 targets, 1 game 2 targets.
This is a way under the radar player with major breakout potential. My top sleeper breakout WR this year. This team is on the rise and Fournette will ensure 8 in the box and play action will really help Lee IMO. Better than AJ Green, Cooks, DT over that stretch to name a few. On a side note his catch rate over the last 2 years is over 70%. The markers are all there to breakout.
He is easy to overlook, I would advise against it.
Go back and look at weeks 6-14. He was dinged in 15 and 16. The Jags just paid him 38 million. He will be WR 1 this season with top 20 fantasy upside. The light bulb went off for him. Needs to stay healthy.
During that 8 game stretch he averaged 8.25 targets, 4 of those games 10 plus targets, 1 game 9 targets, 2 games 6 targets, 1 game 2 targets.
This is a way under the radar player with major breakout potential. My top sleeper breakout WR this year. This team is on the rise and Fournette will ensure 8 in the box and play action will really help Lee IMO. Better than AJ Green, Cooks, DT over that stretch to name a few. On a side note his catch rate over the last 2 years is over 70%. The markers are all there to breakout.
He is easy to overlook, I would advise against it.
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Re: Marqise lee string of trades
Lee has been somewhat productive but he hasn’t been able to stay healthy since college, remember he was drafted ahead of ARob. If he can stay healthy he could see the bulk of targets in Jax. I have no problem with either trade, I’d think long and hard about moving him for a late 2nd early 3rd.
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Re: Marqise lee string of trades
Go back over the past 5 rookie drafts. Write all of the WRs names down that were picked late 2nd / early 3rd. Look at their stats and what they are producing in the NFL. Compare those numbers to Lee's numbers from last year.
Then compare the opportunity those guys have compared to the opportunity Lee has this year.
Check the percentage of hits in those late 2nd/early 3rd WRs. ( a few have done well)
You're underselling Lee.
Then compare the opportunity those guys have compared to the opportunity Lee has this year.
Check the percentage of hits in those late 2nd/early 3rd WRs. ( a few have done well)
You're underselling Lee.
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Re: Marqise lee string of trades
I can understand this with the marqise lee for pettis straight up trade but getting what ended up being kyle rudolph and a 19 2nd for marqise lee and a likely late 19 3rd i think is getting great value in my personal opinion not sure thats under selling but obviously i think that cuz i made the trade.cvbuc wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:26 pm Go back over the past 5 rookie drafts. Write all of the WRs names down that were picked late 2nd / early 3rd. Look at their stats and what they are producing in the NFL. Compare those numbers to Lee's numbers from last year.
Then compare the opportunity those guys have compared to the opportunity Lee has this year.
Check the percentage of hits in those late 2nd/early 3rd WRs. ( a few have done well)
You're underselling Lee.
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QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
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RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
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RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
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No problem with the trades based on your valuations. While I think Lee is a great buy these days I also think Rudolph is a great get given Cousins absolutely loves throwing to TE's.
Getting Rudolph is a smart play although I may have tried a different approach. In the end it is all about a fantasy owners valuation.
Getting Rudolph is a smart play although I may have tried a different approach. In the end it is all about a fantasy owners valuation.
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I love Pettis, so I think you did great on both deals....except where you traded him for Rudolph, but I can't blame you if competing, he should get peppered with targets and be dependable.
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I’m surprised at how little value Lee seems to have. I haven’t been able to give him away. A few examples of offers I’ve made that have been rejected:
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.08 + 4.08
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.09
Give Lee + 2019 3rd for Jaylen Samuels
The second above was rejected and countered replacing Lee with a 2020 3rd which I gladly accepted.
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.08 + 4.08
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.09
Give Lee + 2019 3rd for Jaylen Samuels
The second above was rejected and countered replacing Lee with a 2020 3rd which I gladly accepted.
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Who was there at 2.09 that you really wanted?HughHoney wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:20 pm I’m surprised at how little value Lee seems to have. I haven’t been able to give him away. A few examples of offers I’ve made that have been rejected:
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.08 + 4.08
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.09
Give Lee + 2019 3rd for Jaylen Samuels
The second above was rejected and countered replacing Lee with a 2020 3rd which I gladly accepted.
Re: Marqise lee string of trades
Hines. It’s SF but also gives points for return yards which increases his value and I’m high on him anyway. Ironically Pettis fell to 2.12 which I think is super value for him with return points.Titans95 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:22 pmWho was there at 2.09 that you really wanted?HughHoney wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:20 pm I’m surprised at how little value Lee seems to have. I haven’t been able to give him away. A few examples of offers I’ve made that have been rejected:
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.08 + 4.08
Give Lee + 2.12 for 2.09
Give Lee + 2019 3rd for Jaylen Samuels
The second above was rejected and countered replacing Lee with a 2020 3rd which I gladly accepted.
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Re: Marqise lee string of trades
Lee never even went north of 90 yards last year and he was their primary target. Westbrook, Cole and Chark are all better long term investments.
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Re: Marqise lee string of trades
Stealing. Lee is worth an early 3rd to me. Guy is in a WRBC and can't stay healthy. No idea why some value him as an early 2nd.
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