Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

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Which package

Zeke and 1.5
4
14%
Odell and Mixon
24
83%
Evans and Mixon
1
3%
 
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Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby RTE » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:03 pm

Just got offered Mixon and Odell or Mixon and Evans for Zeke and 1.5
Owner has both wr so its my choice.
What ya'll think?
12 team 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 te 1 flex
Qb Wilson, Bortles
Rb Howard, Kerryon Johnson, Duke Johnson, ty Montgomery
Wr Odell, Cooper, Evans, Alshon, Curtis Samuel
TE Jonnu Smith, George kittle, Vance McDonald, Eifert

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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby Blueboy » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:18 pm

I'd do it and take Beckham.

Odell = Zeke
Mixon > 1.05

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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby M-Dub » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:41 am

I think you have to take OBJ/Mixon just based on value, but it does kind of upset your team balance. I would immediately look to move Cooper, Sammy or Davis for a comparable RB.
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby mmass » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:43 am

snap trade for mixon and obj
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby Goddard » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:25 am

OBJ > any other player listed
Mixon > 1.05

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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby BradysBunch » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:40 am

in a non ppr league ( i do not know if you are in one ) I value the stud RB more than the WR. I think it is fair, but I would keep Zeke.

2017 non ppr..Zeke 17.9 pts OBJ 12.25 ( only 4 games )

2016 18.4 vs 12.35

People will say that the WR lasts longer in FF....yes, but I am playing to win now and look at a 3 year window..maybe.
I am ok taking the robert woods off the ww and filling in WR help when needed to keep the RB. Again, this is all non ppr and I only look at me league settings when I look at the numbers.
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby Ice » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:58 am

Might do it for Odell based on roster but trading away Zeke is dangerous. Mixon isn't close to Zeke in talent. Zeke's line is elite and he could smash records this season.

I get the Odell/ Evans WR mindset but make no mistake about it, Zeke is the best player in this group of very good players.

Not a snap decision or easy accept. In fact I would keep Zeke in most scenarios. In non ppr trading away Zeke would be foolish IMO.
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby Titans95 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:26 am

BradysBunch wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:40 am in a non ppr league ( i do not know if you are in one ) I value the stud RB more than the WR. I think it is fair, but I would keep Zeke.

2017 non ppr..Zeke 17.9 pts OBJ 12.25 ( only 4 games )

2016 18.4 vs 12.35

People will say that the WR lasts longer in FF....yes, but I am playing to win now and look at a 3 year window..maybe.
I am ok taking the robert woods off the ww and filling in WR help when needed to keep the RB. Again, this is all non ppr and I only look at me league settings when I look at the numbers.
Where does it say in OP's post it is nonppr? Odell=Zeke in ppr if not greater than and Mixon>>>1.05 so this is an easy accept. You get the #1 WR for the what #3 RB? then you get a young stud who is a way better prospect you could get at 1.05 especially a rookie WR

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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby HughHoney » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:34 am

Goddard wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:25 am OBJ > any other player listed
Mixon > 1.05
Exactly this.

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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby MEuRaH » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:34 am

One of the few times I don't need to look anything up. OBJ > Zeke in all formats.

Mixon is being traded for much more than the 1.05.

So OBJ/Mixon easily.
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby Ice » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:39 am

Titans95 wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:26 am
BradysBunch wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:40 am in a non ppr league ( i do not know if you are in one ) I value the stud RB more than the WR. I think it is fair, but I would keep Zeke.

2017 non ppr..Zeke 17.9 pts OBJ 12.25 ( only 4 games )

2016 18.4 vs 12.35

People will say that the WR lasts longer in FF....yes, but I am playing to win now and look at a 3 year window..maybe.
I am ok taking the robert woods off the ww and filling in WR help when needed to keep the RB. Again, this is all non ppr and I only look at me league settings when I look at the numbers.
Where does it say in OP's post it is nonppr? Odell=Zeke in ppr if not greater than and Mixon>>>1.05 so this is an easy accept. You get the #1 WR for the what #3 RB? then you get a young stud who is a way better prospect you could get at 1.05 especially a rookie WR
This not an easy accept in any format.

What exactly has Mixon done? I get some love the guy but what has Cincy done up front to help Mixon's dismal 3.5 YPC. He does that again and he will be run out of the league. Mixon has talent for sure but to date his vision is little better than a blind man. No way anyone can justify that he is way better than 1.5 with a straight face.

To put it in perspective, 40 others had better YPA. Gio was almost a full yard better per attempt or 30 spots higher.

Zeke had 60 plus more attempts in way less games. Mixon owners may be drinking the koolaid and all but they may want to add scotch... could be a long season for his owners.
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:47 am

See the headline. Zeke plus a 1st better be getting you OBJ or Nuk plus some change

Gladly, it was, and Mixon is more than just change. Definitely make that trade. Nice

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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby Ice » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:54 am

I really would like to hear the justification for Mixon. IMO he lacks vision and purpose. His YPC were horrid last year. Sure seems a lot like him around and are filled with hope.

I watch most every snap in college of his. Plenty of talent but his vision is highly suspect. Hard to blame the line last year given Gio averaged 4.4 vs 3.5 for Mixon. Mixon wasn't a lead back in college either.

I think 1.5 is a way better value personally.
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby murphysxm » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:04 am

I know I am in the minority, but I don't view OBJ as the #1 asset others do. He has missed 17 games in his 4 years, Julio has missed 3 over that same span. In an NFL where true bell cow RB's are so rare, I want the Zeke side.
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Re: Zeke plus 1.5 or Mixon and top wr

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:10 am

I'd rather have OBJ than Zeke, but it's close in non PPR. Mixon and 5 is a wash IMO, but I'm lower on him then most on this board.
Agreed that the op should specify if his league is PPR in the sign.
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