Guice Value?

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Guice Value?

Postby fraction » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:06 am

I received 2 separate offers for Guice yesterday. Thinking I'll pass on both, but wanted other opinions on the value here... and counters? For the team in my sig (2018 start up).

Offer 1

I give: Guice
I get: H. Hines, 2019 1st x 2

Here, the other owner has Chubb, R. Freeman, Michel, and Hines already from this year's class. His WR's aren't deep, with R. Matthews, Crowder, and ARob as his starters.

Offer 2

I give: Guice, Kupp
I get: Cooks, 2019 1st x2, 2019 3rd

This player has Gordon, Coleman, and Cohen, as starters before it falls sharply off a cliff. His WR's of note are Fitz, Landry, and Cooks, Goodwin, Humphries and Ridley, and his TE's worth much are Ertz and Brate.

(edited to reflect amended offer, with 2 firsts in both offers)
Team 1: 0.5 PPR, TE Premium (1 PPR), QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Henry, Dobbins, Fournette, J. White, Richard
WR: M. Thomas, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Juju, Sutton, G. Davis, Mooney, Edwards
TE: Higbee, Tonyan, Njoku, Moreau

Team 2: 0.5 PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Wilson, Prescott, Mayfield, FitzMagic
RB: Chubb, Jones, Robinson, Mostert, Carson, Ballage, Samuels
WR: Allen, ARob, DJ Moore, Sutton, OBJ, AB, Pascal
TE: Higbee, Hurst, Njoku

Team 3: PPR, TE Premium (1.5 PPR), QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Prescott, J. Allen, Ryan,
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mostert, Penny, Pollard, Boone
WR: Godwin, Kirk, Hollywood, Slayton, G.Davis,
TE: Henry, Tonyan, Kmet, Allie-Cox, Parham, Bryant x2

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:42 am

I like Guice but I'd give him up for Cooks and 2 Firsts if all I have to throw in is Kupp
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Re: Guice Value?

Postby Needalife » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:01 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:42 am Ike Guice but I'd give him up for Cooks and 2 Firsts if all I have to throw in is Kupp
Lukky has you covered here ^. Tough to pass on that much value, especially with Guice being unproven. Good deal to multiply assets. Unless I had a good shot to win it all and Guice was a key component I was relying upon, I would cash in.
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Re: Guice Value?

Postby cowboysfan » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:04 am

Cooks and the two 1st rounders

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby Bot101 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:05 am

Im as big a Guice fan on here as there is, and I would sell him + Cupp for the Cooks + 2x 2019 1sts.

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby fraction » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:06 am

Thanks everyone. Trying to learn value in dynasty, so this is helpful.
Team 1: 0.5 PPR, TE Premium (1 PPR), QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Henry, Dobbins, Fournette, J. White, Richard
WR: M. Thomas, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Juju, Sutton, G. Davis, Mooney, Edwards
TE: Higbee, Tonyan, Njoku, Moreau

Team 2: 0.5 PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Wilson, Prescott, Mayfield, FitzMagic
RB: Chubb, Jones, Robinson, Mostert, Carson, Ballage, Samuels
WR: Allen, ARob, DJ Moore, Sutton, OBJ, AB, Pascal
TE: Higbee, Hurst, Njoku

Team 3: PPR, TE Premium (1.5 PPR), QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Prescott, J. Allen, Ryan,
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mostert, Penny, Pollard, Boone
WR: Godwin, Kirk, Hollywood, Slayton, G.Davis,
TE: Henry, Tonyan, Kmet, Allie-Cox, Parham, Bryant x2

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby notweswelker » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:23 am

I'm taking offer 2 and having no regrets at all.

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby BradysBunch » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:43 am

Number two and no regrets
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Re: Guice Value?

Postby topher » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:18 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:42 am I like Guice but I'd give him up for Cooks and 2 Firsts if all I have to throw in is Kupp
Ya this for me as well

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby Titans95 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:45 pm

Don't really like Cooks but the value on that is too good. Get that second offer and run with it. no RAGRETS lol

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby fraction » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:21 pm

Blast! He pulled back.
Team 1: 0.5 PPR, TE Premium (1 PPR), QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Henry, Dobbins, Fournette, J. White, Richard
WR: M. Thomas, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Juju, Sutton, G. Davis, Mooney, Edwards
TE: Higbee, Tonyan, Njoku, Moreau

Team 2: 0.5 PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Wilson, Prescott, Mayfield, FitzMagic
RB: Chubb, Jones, Robinson, Mostert, Carson, Ballage, Samuels
WR: Allen, ARob, DJ Moore, Sutton, OBJ, AB, Pascal
TE: Higbee, Hurst, Njoku

Team 3: PPR, TE Premium (1.5 PPR), QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3 Flex, 1SF

QB: Prescott, J. Allen, Ryan,
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mostert, Penny, Pollard, Boone
WR: Godwin, Kirk, Hollywood, Slayton, G.Davis,
TE: Henry, Tonyan, Kmet, Allie-Cox, Parham, Bryant x2

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:43 pm

That second offer was a big overpay and that sucks that he pulled back his offer, you would’ve won that trade easily.

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby boobam13 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:08 pm

Cowboysfan33 wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:43 pm That second offer was a big overpay and that sucks that he pulled back his offer, you would’ve won that trade easily.
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Re: Guice Value?

Postby Goddard » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:32 pm

aspires wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:21 pm Blast! He pulled back.
Tell him he can remove the 3rd from his side and see if he's willing to reconsider.

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Re: Guice Value?

Postby Pats/VikesFan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:51 am

Goddard wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:32 pm
aspires wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:21 pm Blast! He pulled back.
Tell him he can remove the 3rd from his side and see if he's willing to reconsider.
If the Third rounder is what stopped this owner, heaven help them.
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