What is a stud's cost in only futures?
What is a stud's cost in only futures?
Pretty self-explanatory. I have the opportunity to acquire a stud like David Johnson for 4 future firsts, which got me thinking: how many future 1sts are needed to acquire a true stud? Is it worth blowing up your future in return for one stud player?
1R Dynasty - QB/RB/WR/TE/SUPERFLEX/FLEX/FLEX/FLEX/FLEX/FLEX (startup in progress):
QB: Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Drew Brees, Baker Mayfield
RB: Rashaad Penny, Nyheim Hines
WR: Keenan Allen, Julio Jones, Jarvis Landry, Jamison Crowder, Tyler Lockett, Randall Cobb, Chris Hogan, Anthony Miller
TE: Travis Kelce, Mike Gesicki, Jack Doyle
Picks: 13.05, 13.06, 13.09, 14.03, 16.03, etc.
QB scoring: 1 point/20 yards, 0.5 per completion, -0.5 per incompletion, 6/-4 TD/INT, 0.2 per first down
RB: 0.5 points per first down, PPR
WR: 1 point per first down, PPR
TE: 1.5 PPR, 1.5 points per first down
0.1 points per return yard
QB: Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Drew Brees, Baker Mayfield
RB: Rashaad Penny, Nyheim Hines
WR: Keenan Allen, Julio Jones, Jarvis Landry, Jamison Crowder, Tyler Lockett, Randall Cobb, Chris Hogan, Anthony Miller
TE: Travis Kelce, Mike Gesicki, Jack Doyle
Picks: 13.05, 13.06, 13.09, 14.03, 16.03, etc.
QB scoring: 1 point/20 yards, 0.5 per completion, -0.5 per incompletion, 6/-4 TD/INT, 0.2 per first down
RB: 0.5 points per first down, PPR
WR: 1 point per first down, PPR
TE: 1.5 PPR, 1.5 points per first down
0.1 points per return yard
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
My opinion is no because one player doesn't win u championships..Its by building a team and acquiring studs when u have the capital, not mortgaging ur team for one guy
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Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
I was offered DJ for three firsts and I declined. In terms of value it was probably a good deal for me but I like the idea of building my team via draft and filling the holes via WW/Trade.
12 team PPR/40 player roster/5 round rookie draft
QB - Josh Allen/Anthony Richardson/Gardner Minshew
RB - Bijan Robinson/Javonte Williams/Joe Mixon/Brian Robinson/Kendre Miller/Chase Brown
WR - Ja’Marr Chase/DJ Moore/DeVonta Smith/Zay FlowersJosh Downs/Tank Dell/Skyy Moore/Dontayvion Wicks/Trey Palmer
TE - TJ Hockenson/Sam LaPorta/Cole Kmet
K - Harrison Butker
DL - Myles Garrett/Jeffrey Simmons/Brian Burns/Christian Barmore/Ed Oliver
LB - Shaq Thompson/Ivan Pace Jr/Pete Werner/Christian Harris/Blake Cashman/Micah McFadden
DB - Kyle Hamilton/Jevon Holland/Reed Blankenship/Kyle Dugger/Dax Hill/Jalen Thompson/Amani Hooker
IR -
TS - Isaiah Likely/Isaiah Spiller/Xavier Gipson
2024 Draft picks - 1st (x2), 2nd (x4), 3rd, 4th
2025 Draft picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th
QB - Josh Allen/Anthony Richardson/Gardner Minshew
RB - Bijan Robinson/Javonte Williams/Joe Mixon/Brian Robinson/Kendre Miller/Chase Brown
WR - Ja’Marr Chase/DJ Moore/DeVonta Smith/Zay FlowersJosh Downs/Tank Dell/Skyy Moore/Dontayvion Wicks/Trey Palmer
TE - TJ Hockenson/Sam LaPorta/Cole Kmet
K - Harrison Butker
DL - Myles Garrett/Jeffrey Simmons/Brian Burns/Christian Barmore/Ed Oliver
LB - Shaq Thompson/Ivan Pace Jr/Pete Werner/Christian Harris/Blake Cashman/Micah McFadden
DB - Kyle Hamilton/Jevon Holland/Reed Blankenship/Kyle Dugger/Dax Hill/Jalen Thompson/Amani Hooker
IR -
TS - Isaiah Likely/Isaiah Spiller/Xavier Gipson
2024 Draft picks - 1st (x2), 2nd (x4), 3rd, 4th
2025 Draft picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
I would never make a trade like this at least not for a RB. I’d give 3 and possibly 4 depending on where they should land for Nuk/Odell
12 Team PPR
QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex
QB: Mahomes/Jones
RB: Mixon/Chubb/Mostert/Burkhead/McKinnon
WR: Wilson/JuJu/Marquise/Mooney/Campbell/Dotson/Osborn/Julio/Tolbert/Shakir/Metchie
TE: Andrews/Hurst
QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex
QB: Mahomes/Jones
RB: Mixon/Chubb/Mostert/Burkhead/McKinnon
WR: Wilson/JuJu/Marquise/Mooney/Campbell/Dotson/Osborn/Julio/Tolbert/Shakir/Metchie
TE: Andrews/Hurst
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
If the firsts are projected late and you have a fairly deep team, I personally like getting a surefire stud. I think all boils down to personal preference, though. If you're one piece away from being a serious championship contender, I personally do it 100% of the time with late projected 1sts.
If you have a future pick projected 1.1-1.4, it would obviously be more difficult to part with the 1st.
If you have a future pick projected 1.1-1.4, it would obviously be more difficult to part with the 1st.
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Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
Yes and no. I once turned down giving like 3 or 4 firsts for Elliott and when I look back at who those picks ended up being, I cringe at how big of a steal he would have been. Hindsight of course, and I get why it's hard to give up all those picks for one asset. Years like 2014 and last year could really have you kicking yourself.
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12 Team 1PPR 1QB/1-3RB/1-3 WR/1TE/1DST
QB:Brady
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
12 Team 1PPR 1QB/1-3RB/1-3 WR/1TE/1DST
QB:Brady
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
I will almost always give up picks for proven players. I miss more than I hit in drafts. Typically I tend to fair better with 2nd rounders.
Team 1
12 Teams - .5 pt. PPR
QB: Newton, A. Dalton, Foles
RB: Connor, Fournette, Freeman , McCoy, G. Edwards, Clement, C. Warren
WR: A. Brown, K. Allen, Hilton, Crabtree, R. Foster, M. Harris, C. Patterson, C. Conley
TE: Kelce , C. Herndon, D. Walker
Team 2
16 Teams - PPR
QB: Ryan, Roethlisberger, Foles
RB: Connor, Bell , Lindsay, McCoy, Lynch, Smallwood, P. Barber, I. Smith, Bibbs
WR: Thielen, Juju, D. Adams, Jeffrey, S. Roberts, T. Sharpe, A. Callaway, M. Harris
TE: Ebron, Cook, Eifert, Dickson
Team 3
12 Teams - TE Premium PPR (limited roster 16/20)
QB: Rogers
RB: J. Howard, Chubb, C. Thompson, RoJo, P. Barber
WR: Hilton, Edelman, R. Anderson M. Gallup, C. Kirk, J. Crowder, M. Harris
TE: Njoku
Team 4
12 Team - PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex)
QB: Watson,
RB: Zeke, Guice, Michel, P. Barber, Ballage, C.J. Anderson
WR: Hopkins, Golladay, Fitzy, Z. Jones, T. Benjamin, C. Coleman, C. Conley, B. Perriman, S. Roberts
TE: Engram, Eifert
12 Teams - .5 pt. PPR
QB: Newton, A. Dalton, Foles
RB: Connor, Fournette, Freeman , McCoy, G. Edwards, Clement, C. Warren
WR: A. Brown, K. Allen, Hilton, Crabtree, R. Foster, M. Harris, C. Patterson, C. Conley
TE: Kelce , C. Herndon, D. Walker
Team 2
16 Teams - PPR
QB: Ryan, Roethlisberger, Foles
RB: Connor, Bell , Lindsay, McCoy, Lynch, Smallwood, P. Barber, I. Smith, Bibbs
WR: Thielen, Juju, D. Adams, Jeffrey, S. Roberts, T. Sharpe, A. Callaway, M. Harris
TE: Ebron, Cook, Eifert, Dickson
Team 3
12 Teams - TE Premium PPR (limited roster 16/20)
QB: Rogers
RB: J. Howard, Chubb, C. Thompson, RoJo, P. Barber
WR: Hilton, Edelman, R. Anderson M. Gallup, C. Kirk, J. Crowder, M. Harris
TE: Njoku
Team 4
12 Team - PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex)
QB: Watson,
RB: Zeke, Guice, Michel, P. Barber, Ballage, C.J. Anderson
WR: Hopkins, Golladay, Fitzy, Z. Jones, T. Benjamin, C. Coleman, C. Conley, B. Perriman, S. Roberts
TE: Engram, Eifert
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
Pretty much impossible to answer this. It depends on the stud and the picks.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
Give me the stud every time.
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
I would not do it using future picks, not knowing where they will land...sure, sure, we all say things like “projected late, mid” etc etc, but too much can happen.
If I know where the picks are such as this years picks, then it all depends on my depth. If I’m contending and the picks are late, then I’d consider it. Tougher in this years draft though as it is really good.
If I know where the picks are such as this years picks, then it all depends on my depth. If I’m contending and the picks are late, then I’d consider it. Tougher in this years draft though as it is really good.
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures
I gave up 3-1st, 2-2nds, & 2-3rds for Levon Bell last year. It helped me win the league for the 3rd time in 4 years. I had no issue giving up those potential late first rounders. Picking 12-14th over the next few years, the likelyhood of finding a stud are very low.
Year #9 (3 titles)
12 teams SF .5 PPR 4pt passing TDs
1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex 1SF 0Kickers
QB- Watson, Herbert, Tua, Purdy
RB- CMC, RWhite, JCook, Swift, Gibson, TyChand
WR- Tyreek, Cupp, Cooper, Palmer, MT13
TE- Kmet, Chig, Likely
Team #2 (going full rebuild in 2022)
year #6 (3 titles)
Fields, richardson, DJones
Charbonnet, Dobbins & bunch of bleep
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Doubs, Boutte, ZJones, OBJ, Ross
Chig, Gray, Parham
DT-buckner, Madubukie
DE-JBosa, NBosa, ZCollins, Gary, JoshSweat
LB-Leonard, Oluokun, DWhite, DClark, Gay
CB-Lenoir
S-Dugger, Love, Grant, Kearse, Blackmon
12 teams SF .5 PPR 4pt passing TDs
1QB 1RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex 1SF 0Kickers
QB- Watson, Herbert, Tua, Purdy
RB- CMC, RWhite, JCook, Swift, Gibson, TyChand
WR- Tyreek, Cupp, Cooper, Palmer, MT13
TE- Kmet, Chig, Likely
Team #2 (going full rebuild in 2022)
year #6 (3 titles)
Fields, richardson, DJones
Charbonnet, Dobbins & bunch of bleep
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Doubs, Boutte, ZJones, OBJ, Ross
Chig, Gray, Parham
DT-buckner, Madubukie
DE-JBosa, NBosa, ZCollins, Gary, JoshSweat
LB-Leonard, Oluokun, DWhite, DClark, Gay
CB-Lenoir
S-Dugger, Love, Grant, Kearse, Blackmon
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Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
Is this for the team in your signature? How many teams in the league?
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
I’d make the deal. Might seem like a lot, but you can turn around and trade DJ for 2-3 players that can help you for the next 4 years as opposed to waiting
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
That seems like a lot for a stud RB, I probably wouldn't touch it for more than three, and not if more than one had a good chance to be early.
But like others have been saying, this just comes down to luck and talent evaluation. If you did this for DJ or OBJ last year, or Megatron before he retired unexpectedly, then you got screwed. If a piece you gave up became Hunt or Kamara, you got screwed. But if the pieces you gave up became, say, Abdullah and Perriman, you're happy as hell.
But like others have been saying, this just comes down to luck and talent evaluation. If you did this for DJ or OBJ last year, or Megatron before he retired unexpectedly, then you got screwed. If a piece you gave up became Hunt or Kamara, you got screwed. But if the pieces you gave up became, say, Abdullah and Perriman, you're happy as hell.
Re: What is a stud's cost in only futures?
Can only answer this confidently with more context I think. So I’ll use my own team as context.
Would I give 4 future 1sts for DJ? I dunno, maybe. That’d make my lineup pretty saucy. Lot of capital though, it’s close.
Would I sell OBJ or Zeke for 4 1sts? Very unlikely, but maybe if I could confidently project some early ones
Would I give 4 future 1sts for DJ? I dunno, maybe. That’d make my lineup pretty saucy. Lot of capital though, it’s close.
Would I sell OBJ or Zeke for 4 1sts? Very unlikely, but maybe if I could confidently project some early ones
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
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