(The following post is regarding Team 1 in my signature)
I am really liking my wideouts but would like to feel as confident about my 'backs by potentially acquiring a stud.
By putting up to two 2019 1st round picks and one 2020 1st round pick, none of which are mine (original owners were 1.03 and 1.07 for 2018, to give some idea of projection), does anyone see a feasible way to obtain 'Zeke or Bell or Fournette without crippling my receiving corps?
I am not against sending a stud but, as the title suggests, I am curious if there are ways to offset that with the inclusion of the picks.
For some additional context, the 'Zeke owner drafted Kerryon and now has some interest in Riddick. This is how this thought got started in my mangled brain. Our IDP scoring is also as high as offensive players so there is quite a bit of value in them too (e.g., Antonio scored 283.00; Mosley scored 255.00).
How offensive of an offer is Miller, Foreman, Riddick, two (2) 2019 1st, 2020 1st?
In trying to not ship a stud to get a stud, am I aiming too high? Should I aim lower for someone like Aaron Jones or Lewis?
Anything, good or bad, you all have to say is always welcomed and appreciated. Good looks.
Can I have cake and eat it too?
Can I have cake and eat it too?
12-team PPR IDP Dynasty
League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
2021 2nd (4x), 3rd (3x)
#bleedblue
League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
2021 2nd (4x), 3rd (3x)
#bleedblue
Re: Can I have cake and eat it too?
No. Offer a fair deal. Other GMs should be tarred and feathered for sending Zeke or Bell to a team that already looks like that and not getting back Nuk+, AB+, Evans+ or DJ+
12 Team 1QB IDP Full PPR Start 8
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll
Re: Can I have cake and eat it too?
We actually started talks with Evans or Cooper, but does a single 2019 1st close the gap between Evans and 'Zeke?
12-team PPR IDP Dynasty
League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
2021 2nd (4x), 3rd (3x)
#bleedblue
League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
2021 2nd (4x), 3rd (3x)
#bleedblue
Re: Can I have cake and eat it too?
Probably not enough for Bell or Zeke, but an overpay for Fournette (at least for me).
Re: Can I have cake and eat it too?
Yes you can... but only if the other team is rebuilding. Look at team 1 in my sig. I just moved for Nuk and didn’t trade a starter.
I would think Miller Forman and 3 first’s would get Bell. Just the 3 first’s would probably get Lenny. Zeke would probably be the toughest to pry away.
I would think Miller Forman and 3 first’s would get Bell. Just the 3 first’s would probably get Lenny. Zeke would probably be the toughest to pry away.
Dynasty League: Est. 2012 2018 CHAMPION
10 Team PPR, All tds 6 points, 27 roster
Start: 1-QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE, 1-K, 1-DEF
QB BigBen, Dak
RB Barkley, Cook, Mixon, Chubb, D Williams, R Anderson, B Anderson
WR Nuk, AB, M Thomas, Cooper, M Williams, Godwin, Gallup, McLaurin, Cain, D Moore
TE Engram, Njoku, Knox
K Zuerlein
DEF Vikings, Chargers
2020:2,2,2,2,3,3-5
2021:1,2,2,5
Dynasty League: Est. 2017
12 Team PPR Superflex, 1/4 point per carry, TE bonus, All tds 6 points, 25 roster
Start: 1-2QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-2TE, 1-K, 1-DEF
QB Rodgers, Watson, Luck, Murray
RB Mixon, Gordon, Chubb, Guice, Harris
WR JuJu, Cooks, Golladay, C Davis, Godwin, Fuller, Miller, Washington, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Quinn, C Moore
TE Engram, OJ Howard
K Zuerlein
DEF Denver
2019: 3.10,4.05
2020: 1,1,1,1,2,2,4-5
2021: 1-5
10 Team PPR, All tds 6 points, 27 roster
Start: 1-QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE, 1-K, 1-DEF
QB BigBen, Dak
RB Barkley, Cook, Mixon, Chubb, D Williams, R Anderson, B Anderson
WR Nuk, AB, M Thomas, Cooper, M Williams, Godwin, Gallup, McLaurin, Cain, D Moore
TE Engram, Njoku, Knox
K Zuerlein
DEF Vikings, Chargers
2020:2,2,2,2,3,3-5
2021:1,2,2,5
Dynasty League: Est. 2017
12 Team PPR Superflex, 1/4 point per carry, TE bonus, All tds 6 points, 25 roster
Start: 1-2QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-2TE, 1-K, 1-DEF
QB Rodgers, Watson, Luck, Murray
RB Mixon, Gordon, Chubb, Guice, Harris
WR JuJu, Cooks, Golladay, C Davis, Godwin, Fuller, Miller, Washington, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Quinn, C Moore
TE Engram, OJ Howard
K Zuerlein
DEF Denver
2019: 3.10,4.05
2020: 1,1,1,1,2,2,4-5
2021: 1-5
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Re: Can I have cake and eat it too?
It all depends on your league. Bell just moved in my league for a late ‘19, 1.4 and 1.10. I thought it was an undersell but the team is a dumpster fire and the owner wanted picks. Worst case scenario is the owner finds the offer so offensive that you don’t get a response.
12 team Standard
Russell Wilson
King Henry,Chubb, Antonio Gibson, David Johnson, Mike Davis, A McFarland, J Samuels, Ito Smith, Brian Hill
Godwin, K Allen, OBJ, Tyler Boyd, Tre'Quan Smith, M Boykin, D Duvernay,
Travis Kelce, T.J. Hockenson, OJ Howard
(QB/3WR/2RB/TE/FLEX)
12 team 1 point PPR
Justin Herbert, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr
JT, Chubb, Mixon, Chase Edmonds, Sony Michel, Ito Smith, Brian Hill, Gio Bernard
Nuk, Ridley, Boyd, OBJ, Claypool, Agholor, Zay Jones, A Tate, James Washington, John Brown, Preston Williams
Hockenson, OJ Howard
(QB/2WR/2RB/TE/2FLEX)
12 team 1 point PPR, SF, IDP
https://www64.myfantasyleague.com/2021/ ... =0011&O=01
(QB/3WR/2RB/TE/2FLEX/SF/2DT/2LB/2CB/2FLEX/K)
Russell Wilson
King Henry,Chubb, Antonio Gibson, David Johnson, Mike Davis, A McFarland, J Samuels, Ito Smith, Brian Hill
Godwin, K Allen, OBJ, Tyler Boyd, Tre'Quan Smith, M Boykin, D Duvernay,
Travis Kelce, T.J. Hockenson, OJ Howard
(QB/3WR/2RB/TE/FLEX)
12 team 1 point PPR
Justin Herbert, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr
JT, Chubb, Mixon, Chase Edmonds, Sony Michel, Ito Smith, Brian Hill, Gio Bernard
Nuk, Ridley, Boyd, OBJ, Claypool, Agholor, Zay Jones, A Tate, James Washington, John Brown, Preston Williams
Hockenson, OJ Howard
(QB/2WR/2RB/TE/2FLEX)
12 team 1 point PPR, SF, IDP
https://www64.myfantasyleague.com/2021/ ... =0011&O=01
(QB/3WR/2RB/TE/2FLEX/SF/2DT/2LB/2CB/2FLEX/K)
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Re: Can I have cake and eat it too?
I might on my own island here, but I wouldn't trade the package that you offered for any RB. You have a stable of RBs that might mix-and-match into productivity. At some point soon, you'll might need to address the QB position. By making the trade that you proposed, you're robbing yourself of any and all possibility to maneuver in-season and next year.
Say that AB goes down, that Cooper is still mediocre, and that your RBs are holding fort. Those picks would be muuuuch more valuable in that scenario than a better RB. Say that Brady hits the cliff or that Mahomes looks to WRs more than TEs. I would be loathe to trade all your future ammo, roster flexibility, and insurance for a RB, no matter how elite he is.
Alternatively, put it this way: If I were the other owner and got the offer that you proposed, then I'd snap accept. I think that your offer isnt' an insult -- it's an overpay.
Say that AB goes down, that Cooper is still mediocre, and that your RBs are holding fort. Those picks would be muuuuch more valuable in that scenario than a better RB. Say that Brady hits the cliff or that Mahomes looks to WRs more than TEs. I would be loathe to trade all your future ammo, roster flexibility, and insurance for a RB, no matter how elite he is.
Alternatively, put it this way: If I were the other owner and got the offer that you proposed, then I'd snap accept. I think that your offer isnt' an insult -- it's an overpay.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
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