Saquon + ? = OBJ

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Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby Oil Boom » Fri May 25, 2018 1:42 pm

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I own quite a few picks in my upcoming draft and another owner and I have been discussing a potential [1.01+ for OBJ] swap - since it would help both of our teams (I could use WR help; he could use RB help). I am trying to acquire OBJ as 'cheap' as possible. His first offer was 1.01 + 1.03 for OBJ, but this seems a bit high to me.

If you owned OBJ, what would be a realistic trade offer you would be searching for?

Here are the valuable picks I have:

1.01
1.03
1.07
1.08
1.10
1.12
2.01

I am almost tempted to just stay put, and draft 3+ WRs after pick 1.03. Without getting into roster constructs, would a counter offer of 1.01 + 1.07 for OBJ be realistic, or am I way off here? Thanks for help in advance!

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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby coldfusion167 » Fri May 25, 2018 1:49 pm

You have some great picks and they put you in a good position. I think you are better off staying put and drafting the players you need. I think Barkley is gonna be a beast. For me personally, if I owned the 1.01 I'd want more than OBJ. The 1.01 value is sky high right now because of Barkley.
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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby R2D2 » Fri May 25, 2018 2:30 pm

I wouldn't trade more than a mid 2nd for OBJ along with Barkley. You should be able to grab 4 of the top rookie WR with 1.8-2.1. I would look into trying to trade your non 1.1 pick for less expensive WR1 or high end WR2.

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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby The Red Rooster » Fri May 25, 2018 3:06 pm

If you can get OBJ for the 1.01 and 1.07, do it. I dont own OBJ but I can't imagine I would deal him for two unproven rookies. Honestly, even the 1.01 and the 1.03 wouldn't be enough.

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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby outrage » Fri May 25, 2018 5:18 pm

I think Barkley + 1.12 = OBJ. If you had to do the 1.07 instead of 1.12 to get a proven stud in OBJ, I don't think anyone would blame you. I don't think anyone would blame you for staying put either. Just depends which way you wanna go, but I'd start with 1.12 and work my way up if necessary.

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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby Oil Boom » Fri May 25, 2018 5:44 pm

Thanks for the help, everyone. Right now we're at:

Give:
1.01 + 1.12
-
Get:
OBJ

And he seems to be on board with that. Now, I just have to make sure I want to get rid of Saquon, haha.

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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby Needalife » Fri May 25, 2018 7:43 pm

Oil Boom wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 5:44 pm Thanks for the help, everyone. Right now we're at:

Give:
1.01 + 1.12
-
Get:
OBJ

And he seems to be on board with that. Now, I just have to make sure I want to get rid of Saquon, haha.
Keep Barkley. I traded Barkley this offseason for Hopkins straight up. You should get OBJ or Hopkins type, otherwise stay put and grab Barkley
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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby Ice » Fri May 25, 2018 7:47 pm

Oil Boom wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 5:44 pm Thanks for the help, everyone. Right now we're at:

Give:
1.01 + 1.12
-
Get:
OBJ

And he seems to be on board with that. Now, I just have to make sure I want to get rid of Saquon, haha.
I would not give the 1.12.

In fact I would rather have Barkley than OBJ. I get how good OBJ is but his longer term risk is higher making it even at best.

If you want a stud WR offer 3 or 4 your other picks for a player like Hopkins or another stud.
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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 25, 2018 7:52 pm

coldfusion167 wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 1:49 pm You have some great picks and they put you in a good position. I think you are better off staying put and drafting the players you need. I think Barkley is gonna be a beast. For me personally, if I owned the 1.01 I'd want more than OBJ. The 1.01 value is sky high right now because of Barkley.
You may want it, but it's unreasonable. You wouldn't get it. The value is sky high, but I don't know of anybody adding to OBJ to get Barkley, the hype of the 1.01 is real, but the "value", though it be sky high, is not worth OBJ. I think Saquon is a great prospect, but OBJ has proven to be a generational type talent on an NFL football field since he stepped into the league, and that's worth more than a guy who hasn't. ADP suggests the margin is slim, but OBJ is still the more coveted asset.

To the OP, you need to add a bit to get OBJ, but their ADP's are close. 1.12 is the most I would add, it all depends how much you want OBJ.
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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby Trevormortis » Fri May 25, 2018 7:58 pm

Man this hype is crazy... Coming from someone who owns both OBJ and the 1.01 in a league, OBJ is easily worth 1.01 and 1.12. Id be snap accepting that.
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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby bainer3 » Fri May 25, 2018 8:18 pm

Man... are people legit naming Barkley the number 1 dynasty asset before he’s even went to training camp?

He might very well be after this year, but why pay for him like he already is? Makes 0 sense to pay max value an rb can achieve, when he can’t gain value and hasn’t even played in the nfl yet lol

If you can get obj for 1.1 and 1.12, I’d do that in a heartbeat

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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 25, 2018 8:20 pm

bainer3 wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 8:18 pm Man... are people legit naming Barkley the number 1 dynasty asset before he’s even went to training camp?

He might very well be after this year, but why pay for him like he already is? Makes 0 sense to pay max value an rb can achieve, when he can’t gain value and hasn’t even played in the nfl yet lol

If you can get obj for 1.1 and 1.12, I’d do that in a heartbeat
Pretty much. It's ridiculous.
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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby Phaded » Fri May 25, 2018 8:34 pm

lol @ some of the opinions in this thread..
This is why I never ask for opinions in team advice.

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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 25, 2018 8:36 pm

Ice wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 7:47 pm
Oil Boom wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 5:44 pm Thanks for the help, everyone. Right now we're at:

Give:
1.01 + 1.12
-
Get:
OBJ

And he seems to be on board with that. Now, I just have to make sure I want to get rid of Saquon, haha.
I would not give the 1.12.

In fact I would rather have Barkley than OBJ. I get how good OBJ is but his longer term risk is higher making it even at best.

If you want a stud WR offer 3 or 4 your other picks for a player like Hopkins or another stud.
What long term risk? What about the long term risk of Saquon being, A RB, and one that has never proved himself to be elite in the NFL. Even at best, come on man!
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Re: Saquon + ? = OBJ

Postby Rosenbluu » Fri May 25, 2018 8:40 pm

I wouldn’t trade OBJ any of that... I don’t think I would for the 1.01+1.02... a lot of risk for easily the best dynasty asset
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