Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

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Mix ++ vs. Alshon/Shady

Mixon, 1.9, K. Golladay
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Alshon, Shady
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Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby jessup45 » Wed May 23, 2018 10:32 am

For team 2 in my Sig. I have the following trade offered and the owner is "mulling it over." I am having second thoughts and thinking about rescinding. Which side do you like better?
Team 1
12 Teams - .5 pt. PPR
QB: Newton, A. Dalton, Foles
RB: Connor, Fournette, Freeman , McCoy, G. Edwards, Clement, C. Warren
WR: A. Brown, K. Allen, Hilton, Crabtree, R. Foster, M. Harris, C. Patterson, C. Conley
TE: Kelce , C. Herndon, D. Walker

Team 2
16 Teams - PPR
QB: Ryan, Roethlisberger, Foles
RB: Connor, Bell , Lindsay, McCoy, Lynch, Smallwood, P. Barber, I. Smith, Bibbs
WR: Thielen, Juju, D. Adams, Jeffrey, S. Roberts, T. Sharpe, A. Callaway, M. Harris
TE: Ebron, Cook, Eifert, Dickson

Team 3
12 Teams - TE Premium PPR (limited roster 16/20)
QB: Rogers
RB: J. Howard, Chubb, C. Thompson, RoJo, P. Barber
WR: Hilton, Edelman, R. Anderson M. Gallup, C. Kirk, J. Crowder, M. Harris
TE: Njoku

Team 4
12 Team - PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex)
QB: Watson,
RB: Zeke, Guice, Michel, P. Barber, Ballage, C.J. Anderson
WR: Hopkins, Golladay, Fitzy, Z. Jones, T. Benjamin, C. Coleman, C. Conley, B. Perriman, S. Roberts
TE: Engram, Eifert

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed May 23, 2018 10:43 am

Mixon > Alshon

1.9 and Golloday = 2018 Shady
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed May 23, 2018 10:45 am

McCoy = 1.09
Mixon > Alshon
Golladay >>> nothing
This trade would be a win for you.
Kittles Pox | Championships: 2015, 2017
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby jessup45 » Wed May 23, 2018 10:50 am

Appreciate the quick responses. I agree with both on value in a box. But for my team, which is in win now mode (won last year and trying to repeat), does a starting core of Bell/Shady, Adams/Theilen/Alshon vs. Bell/Mixon, Adams/Theilen/JuJu make that big a difference? I.e., does the youth I get from making this trade counterbalance the potential fall off in starting roster (for this year anyway)? I think that this year (and maybe next), I get better production out of Alshon/Shady vs. Mixon/Golladay/1.9.

Maybe I am overthinking. He may reject the offer anyway
Team 1
12 Teams - .5 pt. PPR
QB: Newton, A. Dalton, Foles
RB: Connor, Fournette, Freeman , McCoy, G. Edwards, Clement, C. Warren
WR: A. Brown, K. Allen, Hilton, Crabtree, R. Foster, M. Harris, C. Patterson, C. Conley
TE: Kelce , C. Herndon, D. Walker

Team 2
16 Teams - PPR
QB: Ryan, Roethlisberger, Foles
RB: Connor, Bell , Lindsay, McCoy, Lynch, Smallwood, P. Barber, I. Smith, Bibbs
WR: Thielen, Juju, D. Adams, Jeffrey, S. Roberts, T. Sharpe, A. Callaway, M. Harris
TE: Ebron, Cook, Eifert, Dickson

Team 3
12 Teams - TE Premium PPR (limited roster 16/20)
QB: Rogers
RB: J. Howard, Chubb, C. Thompson, RoJo, P. Barber
WR: Hilton, Edelman, R. Anderson M. Gallup, C. Kirk, J. Crowder, M. Harris
TE: Njoku

Team 4
12 Team - PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex)
QB: Watson,
RB: Zeke, Guice, Michel, P. Barber, Ballage, C.J. Anderson
WR: Hopkins, Golladay, Fitzy, Z. Jones, T. Benjamin, C. Coleman, C. Conley, B. Perriman, S. Roberts
TE: Engram, Eifert

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby bainer3 » Wed May 23, 2018 9:38 pm

Man, take the value in a 16 team league. I think Jeffrey is plug and play at best, just because wentz spreads the ball a decent amount.

McCoy is the only thing going for that offense that lost 2 starting oline this offseason. He’s going to see 8 in the box every game with a lackluster oline/qb/wr and he’s getting up there in age.

Galladay is up and coming, I really like him. 1.9 gives you another high potential rookie. Mixon is the best piece in this deal.

I’d take the deal.

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby Goddard » Wed May 23, 2018 9:54 pm

Mixon should be worth more than Jeffery and McCoy combined.

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby jessup45 » Thu May 24, 2018 9:09 am

Point taken - he asked me to add a TE to the deal which I did and am awaiting his response. Appreciate the talk off the ledge
Team 1
12 Teams - .5 pt. PPR
QB: Newton, A. Dalton, Foles
RB: Connor, Fournette, Freeman , McCoy, G. Edwards, Clement, C. Warren
WR: A. Brown, K. Allen, Hilton, Crabtree, R. Foster, M. Harris, C. Patterson, C. Conley
TE: Kelce , C. Herndon, D. Walker

Team 2
16 Teams - PPR
QB: Ryan, Roethlisberger, Foles
RB: Connor, Bell , Lindsay, McCoy, Lynch, Smallwood, P. Barber, I. Smith, Bibbs
WR: Thielen, Juju, D. Adams, Jeffrey, S. Roberts, T. Sharpe, A. Callaway, M. Harris
TE: Ebron, Cook, Eifert, Dickson

Team 3
12 Teams - TE Premium PPR (limited roster 16/20)
QB: Rogers
RB: J. Howard, Chubb, C. Thompson, RoJo, P. Barber
WR: Hilton, Edelman, R. Anderson M. Gallup, C. Kirk, J. Crowder, M. Harris
TE: Njoku

Team 4
12 Team - PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex)
QB: Watson,
RB: Zeke, Guice, Michel, P. Barber, Ballage, C.J. Anderson
WR: Hopkins, Golladay, Fitzy, Z. Jones, T. Benjamin, C. Coleman, C. Conley, B. Perriman, S. Roberts
TE: Engram, Eifert

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby kmbryant09 » Fri May 25, 2018 6:42 am

Why is everyone so high on Mixon? He had a horrible rookie season and was badly outplayed by Gio Bernard.

I know he's getting a 2nd chance and the O-Line should be better, but I don't think he should be valued MORE than Alshon right now.

While this trade would allow you to cash out on McCoy before it's too late, I think it makes your team / starting lineup worse. For 2018 production, McCoy = > Mixon, while Alshon > JuJu.

I would try to focus the trade on McCoy / Mixon. Try taking out Alshon, Golladay, and 1.09 - you'll undoubtedly have to add something (2nd rounder? Ebron?) - but that type of trade would be a much bigger win for your team than the proposed deal.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

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Re: Mixon + vs. Alshon/Shady

Postby bainer3 » Fri May 25, 2018 8:04 am

kmbryant09 wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 6:42 am Why is everyone so high on Mixon? He had a horrible rookie season and was badly outplayed by Gio Bernard.

I know he's getting a 2nd chance and the O-Line should be better, but I don't think he should be valued MORE than Alshon right now.

While this trade would allow you to cash out on McCoy before it's too late, I think it makes your team / starting lineup worse. For 2018 production, McCoy = > Mixon, while Alshon > JuJu.

I would try to focus the trade on McCoy / Mixon. Try taking out Alshon, Golladay, and 1.09 - you'll undoubtedly have to add something (2nd rounder? Ebron?) - but that type of trade would be a much bigger win for your team than the proposed deal.
Why wouldn’t he be worth more? He has little competition for early down work. Gio came in for mixon during the easy part of the schedule, so I don’t look too much into that.

With an upgraded oline, I see mixon doing well. I like jeffrey, I just see a lot of mouths to feed in that offense... plus he hasn’t had 1000 yard season for awhile (injuries, new team).

At most, mixon = to Alshon .. there fore I would rather have 1.09 and galladay than McCoy.

I do agree that if you can get mixon for McCoy and a little, I’d do that.


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