What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6. (update 5/23)

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby Bluedino14 » Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm

I would play the 1.2 against the 1.5 owner. Let him know you are going to take Baker & get him to offer his 1.5 plus something else, maybe a 2018 2nd & 2019 1st. I would even play the long game & see if he will go future 2019 & 2020 1st. 2020 is going to have a good RB class. 2020 looks to have some promising WR's as well. Should also be Tua's & Fromm's draft year.
Team 1 - 8 Team Superflex - 1QB, 3RB, 2WR, 1WR/TE, 1TE, 3Flex, 1SF

QB - Mayfield, JimmyG, Joe Burrow, Tua
RB - S. Barkley, A. Kamara, N. Chubb, Miles Sanders, David Montgomery, D. Swift, JK Dobbins, T. Coleman, Royce Freeman, Devine Ozigbo, Damien Williams
WR - Michael Thomas, JuJu S. Schuster, K. Golladay, A. Robinson, C. Godwin, Mecole Hardman, JJAW, Curtis Samuel, DK Metcalf, D. Slayton, Henry Ruggs III, Jalen Reagor, Bryan Edwards
TE - Evan Engram, D. Goedert

4 - 2021 1sts & 2 - 2021 2nds

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby NWABCS » Tue May 22, 2018 5:26 pm

Bluedino14 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm I would play the 1.2 against the 1.5 owner. Let him know you are going to take Baker & get him to offer his 1.5 plus something else, maybe a 2018 2nd & 2019 1st. I would even play the long game & see if he will go future 2019 & 2020 1st. 2020 is going to have a good RB class. 2020 looks to have some promising WR's as well. Should also be Tua's & Fromm's draft year.
The guy at 1.5 is rebuilding. If he’s trading, he’s probably looking to move down.
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby Titans95 » Tue May 22, 2018 6:00 pm

NWABCS wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 4:53 pm
Titans95 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 4:51 pm
Sammy is worth more than the 1.10 by himself, let alone adding the 2.11. I personally think the difference between Baker and the other QB's is greater than the difference between Guice and Penny/Michel that you'll probably be able to snag at 1.06. Keep Sammy, 24 and just became the 3rd highest paid WR in the NFL. Dude has some SERIOUS talent just had 2 years of unfortunate foot injuries.
Everyone seems to be way higher on Sammy Watkins than I am.
Even if you don't think he's a stud he should be ranked higher than the rookies, he's 24 and is one of the more talented WR in the nfl. I'd want at least the 1.06 for him

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby Yogurt » Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 pm

Bluedino14 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm I would play the 1.2 against the 1.5 owner. Let him know you are going to take Baker & get him to offer his 1.5 plus something else, maybe a 2018 2nd & 2019 1st. I would even play the long game & see if he will go future 2019 & 2020 1st. 2020 is going to have a good RB class. 2020 looks to have some promising WR's as well. Should also be Tua's & Fromm's draft year.
x2 I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Mayfield. He may be a good QB but Cleveland has shown zero ability to develop a QB and stick with one for more than 2 years. Are you really willing to gamble 1.02 that Mayfield is the guy to break that trend?
10 team non-PPR standard scoring 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX 1 K 1 DEF

2024 picks: 1.01, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.10, 4.01, 5.01

QB: Burrow, Tua, Howell
RB: Najee, Roschon, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dameon Pierce, Bijan, Javonte
WR: Tank Dell, Josh Downs, Jalin Hyatt, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Puka, Olave, Dontayvion Wicks, Jameson Williams, Garrett Wilson, Michael Wilson
TE: Trey McBride, Luke Musgrave

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby NWABCS » Tue May 22, 2018 6:24 pm

Yogurt wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 pm
Bluedino14 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm I would play the 1.2 against the 1.5 owner. Let him know you are going to take Baker & get him to offer his 1.5 plus something else, maybe a 2018 2nd & 2019 1st. I would even play the long game & see if he will go future 2019 & 2020 1st. 2020 is going to have a good RB class. 2020 looks to have some promising WR's as well. Should also be Tua's & Fromm's draft year.
x2 I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Mayfield. He may be a good QB but Cleveland has shown zero ability to develop a QB and stick with one for more than 2 years. Are you really willing to gamble 1.02 that Mayfield is the guy to break that trend?
I feel like I have the luxury to do that.
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby Yogurt » Tue May 22, 2018 6:37 pm

NWABCS wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:24 pm
Yogurt wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 pm
Bluedino14 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm I would play the 1.2 against the 1.5 owner. Let him know you are going to take Baker & get him to offer his 1.5 plus something else, maybe a 2018 2nd & 2019 1st. I would even play the long game & see if he will go future 2019 & 2020 1st. 2020 is going to have a good RB class. 2020 looks to have some promising WR's as well. Should also be Tua's & Fromm's draft year.
x2 I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Mayfield. He may be a good QB but Cleveland has shown zero ability to develop a QB and stick with one for more than 2 years. Are you really willing to gamble 1.02 that Mayfield is the guy to break that trend?
I feel like I have the luxury to do that.
You're in a great spot at 1.02. I personally wouldn't gamble that pick on a player that has a larger than normal chance at failing. If you really want a QB, why not one of the other ones? Rosen is in a pretty good spot. Or take another RB/WR and trade someone later. Or just trade the pick if you don't like anyone. Using 1.02 on Mayfield just seems like burning money IMO.
10 team non-PPR standard scoring 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX 1 K 1 DEF

2024 picks: 1.01, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.10, 4.01, 5.01

QB: Burrow, Tua, Howell
RB: Najee, Roschon, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dameon Pierce, Bijan, Javonte
WR: Tank Dell, Josh Downs, Jalin Hyatt, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Puka, Olave, Dontayvion Wicks, Jameson Williams, Garrett Wilson, Michael Wilson
TE: Trey McBride, Luke Musgrave

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby NWABCS » Tue May 22, 2018 6:40 pm

Yogurt wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:37 pm
NWABCS wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:24 pm
Yogurt wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 pm

x2 I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Mayfield. He may be a good QB but Cleveland has shown zero ability to develop a QB and stick with one for more than 2 years. Are you really willing to gamble 1.02 that Mayfield is the guy to break that trend?
I feel like I have the luxury to do that.
You're in a great spot at 1.02. I personally wouldn't gamble that pick on a player that has a larger than normal chance at failing. If you really want a QB, why not one of the other ones? Rosen is in a pretty good spot. Or take another RB/WR and trade someone later. Or just trade the pick if you don't like anyone. Using 1.02 on Mayfield just seems like burning money IMO.
That’s a fair assessment. I really do like Mayfield’s talent. I could go Guice or whoever else at 1.2 and take whatever QB at 1.6. It’ll hopefully be a little cleared when draft starts July 4th (email draft).
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6. (update 5/23)

Postby NWABCS » Wed May 23, 2018 1:19 pm

I was sent a trade offer of 1.2 for Keenan Allen.

I don't look at this, right? I mean, I have Browns, Evans, Hilton, Watkins, Shepard, and Fuller.

That makes my 1.6 pick a QB for sure then.
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6. (update 5/23)

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed May 23, 2018 1:24 pm

NWABCS wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 1:19 pm I was sent a trade offer of 1.2 for Keenan Allen.
Accept quickly.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6. (update 5/23)

Postby NWABCS » Wed May 23, 2018 1:25 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 1:24 pm
NWABCS wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 1:19 pm I was sent a trade offer of 1.2 for Keenan Allen.
Accept quickly.
I'm low on Keenan Allen but man, for 1.2, I'm fine with him.

I think I can get his 1.12 or 2.1 in return too. Going to try lol
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby Alex116 » Wed May 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Yogurt wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 pm
Bluedino14 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm I would play the 1.2 against the 1.5 owner. Let him know you are going to take Baker & get him to offer his 1.5 plus something else, maybe a 2018 2nd & 2019 1st. I would even play the long game & see if he will go future 2019 & 2020 1st. 2020 is going to have a good RB class. 2020 looks to have some promising WR's as well. Should also be Tua's & Fromm's draft year.
x2 I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Mayfield. He may be a good QB but Cleveland has shown zero ability to develop a QB and stick with one for more than 2 years. Are you really willing to gamble 1.02 that Mayfield is the guy to break that trend?
x3 It's worth exploring. You did say the 1.5 owner is "all in" on Baker so it's worth tossing him an offer to move down. Rebuilding or not, if he wants Mayfield, give him the option of the deal or tell him you're taking him at 2. If he passes, and you like Mayfield enough, take him. Then offer him Mayfield when he's on the clock! This is only if you are fine with Mayfield at 2 of course.

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Re: What's next? Specifically 1.2 and 1.6.

Postby NWABCS » Wed May 23, 2018 1:49 pm

Alex116 wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 1:45 pm
Yogurt wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 pm
Bluedino14 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:10 pm I would play the 1.2 against the 1.5 owner. Let him know you are going to take Baker & get him to offer his 1.5 plus something else, maybe a 2018 2nd & 2019 1st. I would even play the long game & see if he will go future 2019 & 2020 1st. 2020 is going to have a good RB class. 2020 looks to have some promising WR's as well. Should also be Tua's & Fromm's draft year.
x2 I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Mayfield. He may be a good QB but Cleveland has shown zero ability to develop a QB and stick with one for more than 2 years. Are you really willing to gamble 1.02 that Mayfield is the guy to break that trend?
x3 It's worth exploring. You did say the 1.5 owner is "all in" on Baker so it's worth tossing him an offer to move down. Rebuilding or not, if he wants Mayfield, give him the option of the deal or tell him you're taking him at 2. If he passes, and you like Mayfield enough, take him. Then offer him Mayfield when he's on the clock! This is only if you are fine with Mayfield at 2 of course.
Already planning that on draft day lol. If I do the 1.2 for Allen/1.12 (and more since owner really wants 1.2) deal, I could probably go to the 1.5 owner to move down to 1.12 and add some stuff. Not sure a fair deal to go from 1.12 to 1.5 but I could do it and when it's all said and done, move down 3 spots (1.2 to 1.5) and get Keenan Allen to do so. Then I'm sitting there with 1.5, 1.6, and then.. THE WORLD IS MINE!!! :D
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds


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