Dez trade

[Titans95]

Why does the fact that Dallas released him due to declining play keep getting lost in this forum and all the blame placed on Dak? I don't get it... I like Dez, but he's not the same WR he was before his injuries. This pick is max value.

x2. If this wasn't on Dez and more on Dak's playing style then Dez would've been traded but instead they had to cut him because no team would pay that contract for him. No team is even interested in having a washed up guy like dez with his arrogant attitude to even give him a deal let alone the absurd price he is probably demanding.

[The Showstopper]

Everyone will find out what kind of QB Dak is this year....By about the third game when the opponents D has 9 1/2 guys in the box to stop Zeke, because the receivers suck, and the QB can’t hit them anyway...

[notweswelker]

Why does the fact that Dallas released him due to declining play keep getting lost in this forum and all the blame placed on Dak? I don't get it... I like Dez, but he's not the same WR he was before his injuries. This pick is max value.

Dez's declining play aside, Dak is a much better fantasy QB than a real life one. If you put RW behind that line with Zeke running the ball, that's a trip to the Superbowl at the very least. His passing is bottom third of the league, and it's going to be tested now that Dez and Witten are gone. Dez's decline was real but you'd be bonkers to say he wasn't drawing a ton of attention during games last season. Do you really think Dak* is going to be able to carry that team with Allen Hurns and Cole Beasley? I sure don't. I think Dallas finishes under.500 pretty handily this season.

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Why does the fact that Dallas released him due to declining play keep getting lost in this forum and all the blame placed on Dak? I don't get it... I like Dez, but he's not the same WR he was before his injuries. This pick is max value.

Dez's declining play aside, Dak is a much better fantasy QB than a real life one. If you put RW behind that line with Zeke running the ball, that's a trip to the Superbowl at the very least. His passing is bottom third of the league, and it's going to be tested now that Dez and Witten are gone. Dez's decline was real but you'd be bonkers to say he wasn't drawing a ton of attention during games last season. Do you really think Dak* is going to be able to carry that team with Allen Hurns and Cole Beasley? I sure don't. I think Dallas finishes under.500 pretty handily this season.

I think there is a large percentage of members of this forum placing 100% of the blame for Dez lack of production on Dak. They are in for a wake up call when he produces no better wherever he lands. I've never made statements regarding Dak's play. I'm just not going to bury my head in the sand and believe that Dez is the same player he's always been. The top WRs in the game will still produce well with Dak. Dez just isn't in that group anymore.

[Failurebytopher]

I like it. Dez isn’t elite, but could be a solid win now piece.

[Titans95]

Why does the fact that Dallas released him due to declining play keep getting lost in this forum and all the blame placed on Dak? I don't get it... I like Dez, but he's not the same WR he was before his injuries. This pick is max value.

Dez's declining play aside, Dak is a much better fantasy QB than a real life one. If you put RW behind that line with Zeke running the ball, that's a trip to the Superbowl at the very least. His passing is bottom third of the league, and it's going to be tested now that Dez and Witten are gone. Dez's decline was real but you'd be bonkers to say he wasn't drawing a ton of attention during games last season. Do you really think Dak* is going to be able to carry that team with Allen Hurns and Cole Beasley? I sure don't. I think Dallas finishes under.500 pretty handily this season.

I don't want to sound biased because I own Dak but I think a lot of people are writing him off after a bad half a season. I don't think he's an elite QB by any means but he picked up right where he left off his rookie year for the 1st half of the season when Zeke wasn't suspended. He may have gotten completed exposed and he might not be able to bounce back but so far Dak's career has been pretty good. No I don't think he's elite but I think he can operate efficiently within that offensive scheme to make easy passes and be a game manager. Thats all the Cowboys need since they have the best pure rusher in the NFL and the best O-line. Dez definitely didn't fit Dak's skillset but Dez was also extremely bad. If you go and look at his PFF stats he hardly ever got any kind of separation at all and was never open. He may be able to get away with being a redzone 50/50 ball specialist if he goes to a team that has a gunslinging QB but overall Dez is a pretty terrible WR at this point. He hasn't been good for years now.

[smallxl]

I guess the value is good, but the longer he goes unsigned, the more I worry. I'm just not sure he goes to a situation where it favors him. There are very few teams that have elite QBs, as well as need at the WR position where Dez would automatically become the starter.

Agree with this...value looks ok but he has limited situations now...

[bainer3]

Lol even a blind man can see its dak, you obviously haven’t watched film on last year.

To say it wasn’t dak just because they let dez go, is false. He was an easy scape goat with his salary and age. Obviously dak and dez didn’t click on or off the field, so it’s easier to cut the aging wr with a big salary (opposed to the young starting qb with 450k salary).

Let’s put it in perspective, dez was the only pass catcher on the team that cracked 11 ypc with more than 15 catches. Dak has a 6.8 ypa, near the bottom of the league. This seems to me that dak can’t throw accurately down field.

I watched every incompletion to dez on YouTube (a video break down dedicated to it) and it’s obvious that dak is the main problem, not to say dez didn’t have some brain farts. If 1/4 of daks mistakes on those missed throws are complete, dez has 1100+ 10+ and we aren’t talking about this and he’s still on the cowboys.

It’s lazy to read some nfl articles that say dez has so “severely declined” and just take it at face value. Dez is still good, maybe not top 5 anymore, but still a 1000 yard wr with huge red zone upside.

Can’t wait to see dak fail, even Witten said that “...dez has great chemistry with a GOOD qb...”

[bainer3]

I’m not saying he’s gunna be unreal on a new team, but a mid future 2nd rounder is pretty damn good if he lands with any teams like the Seahawks/cards/49ers/jags/colts

[dynastyjukay]

I'm trying to remember, what happened to T.O. or Randy moss? They just disappeared. After turning down the Ravens, I wouldn't b surprised if he is done.

Moss had the best fantasy season EVER for the Pats at the same age Dez is now. TO also had amazing seasons with the cowboys into his 30s. If those are the benchmarks for TO at 29...he is worth a top 5 pick. Heck he is worth more than saquon if those are our options for the reat of his career.

[Goddard]

Lol even a blind man can see its dak, you obviously haven’t watched film on last year.

To say it wasn’t dak just because they let dez go, is false. He was an easy scape goat with his salary and age. Obviously dak and dez didn’t click on or off the field, so it’s easier to cut the aging wr with a big salary (opposed to the young starting qb with 450k salary).

Let’s put it in perspective, dez was the only pass catcher on the team that cracked 11 ypc with more than 15 catches. Dak has a 6.8 ypa, near the bottom of the league. This seems to me that dak can’t throw accurately down field.

I watched every incompletion to dez on YouTube (a video break down dedicated to it) and it’s obvious that dak is the main problem, not to say dez didn’t have some brain farts. If 1/4 of daks mistakes on those missed throws are complete, dez has 1100+ 10+ and we aren’t talking about this and he’s still on the cowboys.

It’s lazy to read some nfl articles that say dez has so “severely declined” and just take it at face value. Dez is still good, maybe not top 5 anymore, but still a 1000 yard wr with huge red zone upside.

Can’t wait to see dak fail, even Witten said that “...dez has great chemistry with a GOOD qb...”

Just curious, but why haven't teams lined up so sign him by now?

[bainer3]

@goddard

It’s common practice for vets to wait until the start of camp to sign with someone. There’s also the major detail that is the fact that he was released Very late into FA, which is one of the main reasons there is a lot of bad blood.

He will sign a 1 year 8 million contract by training camp, there’s obviously a market for him after turning down the ravens offer.

He would be with the jags right now, instead of Moncrief, if he got released with some sort of respect.

I’m not a huge dez fan, I just get so mad when there’s this boneheaded narrative that he’s fallen off so hard that he’s not even worth a 2nd round pick. People been reading too many buck brooks articles.

[Igwebuike 4 Prez]

Yes, with your roster, a 2019 2nd for Dez is a good deal. No mile long analysis needed.

[FantasyFreak]

I don't like the trade for you.
Realistically I see his absolute ceiling as a WR2 next season, and I kinda doubt he even hits that.
Going with the scenario he does hit as a WR2, why do you need to spend a 2nd round pick on him?
You have four WRs who are WR2 or better and for depth you have Kupp, CD, AND Moore.
I don't want to sound harsh but I think it was a waste, unless you can find a buyer if he does hit on a team. Even then I doubt you'll get more than a 2nd in return.

I wouldn't guarantee any of these guys are WR2 or better. DJ Moore? Who knows. His floor is a lot lower than WR2.

[chalorpas]

Lol even a blind man can see its dak, you obviously haven’t watched film on last year.

To say it wasn’t dak just because they let dez go, is false. He was an easy scape goat with his salary and age. Obviously dak and dez didn’t click on or off the field, so it’s easier to cut the aging wr with a big salary (opposed to the young starting qb with 450k salary).

Let’s put it in perspective, dez was the only pass catcher on the team that cracked 11 ypc with more than 15 catches. Dak has a 6.8 ypa, near the bottom of the league. This seems to me that dak can’t throw accurately down field.

I watched every incompletion to dez on YouTube (a video break down dedicated to it) and it’s obvious that dak is the main problem, not to say dez didn’t have some brain farts. If 1/4 of daks mistakes on those missed throws are complete, dez has 1100+ 10+ and we aren’t talking about this and he’s still on the cowboys.

It’s lazy to read some nfl articles that say dez has so “severely declined” and just take it at face value. Dez is still good, maybe not top 5 anymore, but still a 1000 yard wr with huge red zone upside.

Can’t wait to see dak fail, even Witten said that “...dez has great chemistry with a GOOD qb...”

x2. Dak is close to the worst QB in the NFL.