This trade is for the first team in my signature line; the team lacks serious RB depth. Not certain I can draft future potential talent like Jordan Wilkins, Ito Smith, Justin Jackson, Chase Edmonds, etc. at either 3.12 or 4.09 this rookie draft. So, I view Hyde as a flex or fill-in option for the next 2 to 3 seasons (at ages 28-30) with Cleveland and whomever picks him up in 2019.
I initially offered the 4.09 pick alone, and Hyde's owner countered with 3.12+4.09 combined. Given what I've read, 3rd round rookie draft picks have a 9% hit rate for return on investment their 1st year and even lower percentages for 2nd+ years afterwards.
It's a 2QB/0.5PPR league, so all the worthwhile rookie QBs will be drafted quickly. Perhaps, one of the rookie RBs I mentioned falls to 3.12 or 4.09.
What does the Forum think?
Buy Hyde now on the cheap? Pass altogether? Or, wait until the rookie draft takes place, see what develops and then act?
Thanks
Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
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Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
1.0 PPR/1.5 TE/2 FLEX/IDP FLEX/2 QB Dynasty Team 13-0 League Champion
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB
QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB
QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02
Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
That's insanely cheap for Hyde IMO, easy accept
10 Team League: 2 QB 2 RB 3 WR 2 Flex, 0.5 PPR:
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Minshew
RB: Barkley, Kamara, Akers, Jones
WR: AJB, Chase, Evans, Cooks Juju, Mooney, Davis, Rondale, Marshall Jr.
TE: Pitts, Engram
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Minshew
RB: Barkley, Kamara, Akers, Jones
WR: AJB, Chase, Evans, Cooks Juju, Mooney, Davis, Rondale, Marshall Jr.
TE: Pitts, Engram
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Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
even with his low value... take it it
Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
yes, take Hyde here, that is almost free
Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
Sure I would take a free Hyde.
12 Team FFPC TE Premium
QB: Herbert, Brady
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Jav Williams, Pierce, Drake
WR: Jefferson, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Hopkins, Peoples-Jones
TE: Kittle, Goedert
QB: Herbert, Brady
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Jav Williams, Pierce, Drake
WR: Jefferson, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Hopkins, Peoples-Jones
TE: Kittle, Goedert
Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
Yes I would also take Hyde for that cost...
TEAM 1:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Fields, Jones, Flacco, Browning
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Swift, K.Williams, J.Warren, Hunt
WR: J.Jefferson, Lamb, D.Adams, Pittman, London, M.Evans, R.Moore, E.Moore
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, Dulcich, Johnson, Otton
TEAM 2:
12 team 4pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Dak, Pickett, Levis, Browning
RB: Achaine, Gibbs, Spears, Javonte, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, DJM, J.Williams, JSN, Burks, J.Dotson, E.Moore,
TE: Hockenson, Ferguso, Dulcich, Musgrave
TEAM 3:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 pp1 - Superflex, TE Premium
1 QB / 2 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 Flex / SFlex
QB: Burrow, Richardson, Jones, O'Connell, Zappe
RB: Gibbs, K.Williams, Dobbins, CEH, R.Johnson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, G.Wilson, M.Brown, Sutton, Burks, Z.Jones, D.Douglas, Tillman
TE: Hockenson, Kincaid, Dulcich, Musgrave, Kraft
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Fields, Jones, Flacco, Browning
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Swift, K.Williams, J.Warren, Hunt
WR: J.Jefferson, Lamb, D.Adams, Pittman, London, M.Evans, R.Moore, E.Moore
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, Dulcich, Johnson, Otton
TEAM 2:
12 team 4pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Dak, Pickett, Levis, Browning
RB: Achaine, Gibbs, Spears, Javonte, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, DJM, J.Williams, JSN, Burks, J.Dotson, E.Moore,
TE: Hockenson, Ferguso, Dulcich, Musgrave
TEAM 3:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 pp1 - Superflex, TE Premium
1 QB / 2 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 Flex / SFlex
QB: Burrow, Richardson, Jones, O'Connell, Zappe
RB: Gibbs, K.Williams, Dobbins, CEH, R.Johnson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, G.Wilson, M.Brown, Sutton, Burks, Z.Jones, D.Douglas, Tillman
TE: Hockenson, Kincaid, Dulcich, Musgrave, Kraft
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Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
So someones just giving you hyde, duhhhh
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Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
hyde by a whole lot. this is kinda silly, cant believe he even countered that initial offer lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
Piling on
Team 1
Start 1 QB 2RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 flex 1 SF
QB: L.JACKSON WILSON Mayfield Mac Jones Trevor siemien Mike White
RB: BARKLEY A.JONES Aj Dillion James Robinson Mike Davis gaskin Lindsey rojo drake ozigbo n.hines Doaks Herbert eno Benjamin
WR: T.HILL Diggs NUK McLaurin Gallup P.Williams Allen lazard MVS Bowden Van Jefferson D.Harris Q.cephus, Darby
TE: KITTLE Evan Engram RSJ hunter long
6 pts for TD full PPR .25 PPC 1 pt per 10 rushing/receiving yards 1 pt per 20 passing yards
Team 2
10 team PPR league
4 pt passing td. 6 pt for all other TD.
QB: DAK, Matt Ryan, Taysom Hill
RB: Chubb, Miles Sanders, James Robinson Akers, T.coleman, Royce Freeman,Chase Edmonds, Ryquell Armstead, Joshua Kelly, L.perine,
WR: MT, Tyreek Hill, Godwin, JUJU, Mclaurin, M.Brown, Sterling Shepard, Preston Williams, PLazard, John Ross, Trequan Smith,Harmon, Ruggs, T.Higgins
TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry,OJ Howard,
K: Butker
DEF: Colts Packers Browns
start: 1 QB 2 WR 2 RB 1TE 2 flex
2021: 2x 1sts
2022: 3rd, 4th
Start 1 QB 2RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 flex 1 SF
QB: L.JACKSON WILSON Mayfield Mac Jones Trevor siemien Mike White
RB: BARKLEY A.JONES Aj Dillion James Robinson Mike Davis gaskin Lindsey rojo drake ozigbo n.hines Doaks Herbert eno Benjamin
WR: T.HILL Diggs NUK McLaurin Gallup P.Williams Allen lazard MVS Bowden Van Jefferson D.Harris Q.cephus, Darby
TE: KITTLE Evan Engram RSJ hunter long
6 pts for TD full PPR .25 PPC 1 pt per 10 rushing/receiving yards 1 pt per 20 passing yards
Team 2
10 team PPR league
4 pt passing td. 6 pt for all other TD.
QB: DAK, Matt Ryan, Taysom Hill
RB: Chubb, Miles Sanders, James Robinson Akers, T.coleman, Royce Freeman,Chase Edmonds, Ryquell Armstead, Joshua Kelly, L.perine,
WR: MT, Tyreek Hill, Godwin, JUJU, Mclaurin, M.Brown, Sterling Shepard, Preston Williams, PLazard, John Ross, Trequan Smith,Harmon, Ruggs, T.Higgins
TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry,OJ Howard,
K: Butker
DEF: Colts Packers Browns
start: 1 QB 2 WR 2 RB 1TE 2 flex
2021: 2x 1sts
2022: 3rd, 4th
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Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
Thanks for the replies. At 4:30AM, I was surprised by the counter too and wondered if it was a "value trap". Nope, I just needed sleep. Offer accepted. Thanks again.
1.0 PPR/1.5 TE/2 FLEX/IDP FLEX/2 QB Dynasty Team 13-0 League Champion
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB
QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB
QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02
Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
What a win for you!
12 team/.5 PPR league/ 1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, D, K
Team 1
QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
WR: Lamb, K Allen, G WilsonLondon, Flowers, JSN, Mims, Perry
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Likely
K: Aubrey
D: 49ers Cowboys, Browns
Team 2
QB: Lawrence, Wilson, Fields
RB: Javonte Williams, Ekeler, McCaffrey, Pacheco Charbonnet, Bigsby
WR: Chase, London, Jeudy Woods, Sutton, Beckham, Skyy Moore, W Robinson
TE: Pitts Likely, Kmet, Dulcich
K: McPherson
D: 49ers
Team 1
QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
WR: Lamb, K Allen, G WilsonLondon, Flowers, JSN, Mims, Perry
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Likely
K: Aubrey
D: 49ers Cowboys, Browns
Team 2
QB: Lawrence, Wilson, Fields
RB: Javonte Williams, Ekeler, McCaffrey, Pacheco Charbonnet, Bigsby
WR: Chase, London, Jeudy Woods, Sutton, Beckham, Skyy Moore, W Robinson
TE: Pitts Likely, Kmet, Dulcich
K: McPherson
D: 49ers
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Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
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Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
makes me feel like i got robbed paying chris thompson for hyde with this offer
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
Re: Carlos Hyde for 2018 Rookie Picks 3.12 + 4.09
Nice deal for you
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
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