12 tm, ppr
We had a new owner join and the following trade went thru:
New owner gave: L. Bell
Old owner gave: 1.07, 2.07, 2.12, 3.02, 4.03
I'm not one to bring these kinds of things up but this is bad. The new owner is likely green after making a trade like that. Thoughts?
L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
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Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
Better screening process may be necessary. Yikes. First move this guy made? It's a terrible trade. Is collusion suspected?
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Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
This was the first move. I don't see collusion being in play here. This is more a question of where to draw the line with vetoing. It's a terrible trade that puts us all at a huge disadvantage.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:42 pm Better screening process may be necessary. Yikes. First move this guy made? It's a terrible trade. Is collusion suspected?
Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
I agree that better screening was necessary...don't put a novice in a league of vets...this is in the by laws of most of my leagues:
However, if any trades appear to be unfair (obvious collusion or damaging the integrity of the league), the commissioner may ask the league owners to vote whether or not to void the transaction
we have never had to put this into action, but replacement owners have years of experience....perhaps you need to point that team to this forum for advice...
good luck..
However, if any trades appear to be unfair (obvious collusion or damaging the integrity of the league), the commissioner may ask the league owners to vote whether or not to void the transaction
we have never had to put this into action, but replacement owners have years of experience....perhaps you need to point that team to this forum for advice...
good luck..
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qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
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Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
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Cousins, Stafford
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Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
I get annoyed at a lot of trades that happen in my league but none of them would enrage me like this trade if i saw it happen, this is simply not fair to the person giving Bell away and it is not fair for everyone else either...This should be at least brought up to the league. You can't blame the guy who got Bell for that cheap but damn that would be worrisome for all future trades as well regarding the new owner.
Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
I literally offered a trade for bell 10 minutes ago
Give: burton/miller/1.08/1.09/ ‘19 2nd/ ‘19 3rd
Get: lev bell
This guy needs a te and i still doubt he takes it...
So yes, i think thats veto worthy...
Give: burton/miller/1.08/1.09/ ‘19 2nd/ ‘19 3rd
Get: lev bell
This guy needs a te and i still doubt he takes it...
So yes, i think thats veto worthy...
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Qb: Mahomes
Rb: CEH/ Miles Sanders/ C Patt/ Sermon
Wr: Mclaurin/ Devonta Smith/ Toney/ Bryan Edwards/ M Callaway/ Slayton
Te: Gesicki/ Everett/ Dan Arnold
K: h butker
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Qb: Mahomes
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Te: Gesicki/ Everett/ Dan Arnold
K: h butker
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Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
Unfotunate for the returning owners, and this type of trade happens way too often imo. Both new and existing owners.
My beef always is how much it bumps the team receiving the stud in return... But im not sure you can do anything about it. Some feel 2-8 are the same. How would you feel if it weré 2 instead of 7?
My beef always is how much it bumps the team receiving the stud in return... But im not sure you can do anything about it. Some feel 2-8 are the same. How would you feel if it weré 2 instead of 7?
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Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
If the owner is NEW to dynasty completely I would talk with them, giving them a little info about value and things as such. I would allow them to decide if they want to reverse this trade but notify them this will be the ONLY time they will get a trade reversed ever.
If however they say they have dynasty experience then I'd morning offer any recourse but make fun of him so badly until they realize the error of their ways
This seems like the best compromise because sometimes people need to learn the hard way, but as the commish of a league I know how it hurts to see a team get completely deplited by an incompetent owner knowing next year you'll have to convince someone to take that hot piece of garbage team over.
If however they say they have dynasty experience then I'd morning offer any recourse but make fun of him so badly until they realize the error of their ways
This seems like the best compromise because sometimes people need to learn the hard way, but as the commish of a league I know how it hurts to see a team get completely deplited by an incompetent owner knowing next year you'll have to convince someone to take that hot piece of garbage team over.
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RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau
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WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau
Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
Am I the only one that does not have a big deal with this trade? Other owner gets a ton of picks and his (or her) team might be in rebuilding mode. I would let it fly even though the team getting Bell got the better end
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TE Kittle, Freiermuth, Kroft
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WR Hopkins, T.Patrick, E.Moore
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TE Hooper, Conklin, Jarwin, Doyle, JuwanJ
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RB Hines, Harris, R.Jones, Murray, Freeman, J,Kelley, Hasty
WR Tyreek, C.Ridley, J.Chase, Aiyuk, Hardman, Renfrow, Campbell, Eskridge, Tre'quan
TE Kittle, Freiermuth, Kroft
Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
Meh.
Id like to see the rest of the roster before I called this just a poor trade or a trade worthy of a veto discussion.
Youre going to see poor trades, period. Gurley for ebron and two lates 2019 1sts happened in another thread I just looked at, thats worse than this.
Id like to see the rest of the roster before I called this just a poor trade or a trade worthy of a veto discussion.
Youre going to see poor trades, period. Gurley for ebron and two lates 2019 1sts happened in another thread I just looked at, thats worse than this.
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WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
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RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
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Re: L. Bell for 1.07+ veto worthy?
If the rules allow for a veto, then yeah, veto. If they don't, then I guess you need to make rule to help cure for a problem like this.