What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

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What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby bainer3 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:05 pm

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I’m thinking of moving up to 1.4 from 1.6. I really think there is a drop offf after 1.4/5.

I expressed interest in it and he immediately started with ajayi +1.6. But he is known for going really high to start.

I’m thinking of offering lee and 1.6, does that sound about right? If not, what are your suggestions?

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby Generic Username » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:12 pm

Lee isn't moving the needle much for anyone...Ajayi would do it, and you should get a 2nd back

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby The Red Rooster » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:24 pm

Generic Username wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:12 pm Lee isn't moving the needle much for anyone...Ajayi would do it, and you should get a 2nd back
Agreed.

Lee doesn't do much for me. If you think your trade partner is interested in Lee (and you do not want to move Ajayi to move up, which I wouldn't blame you), you can try by offering Lee and your 2nd in addition to the 1.06...but, that is probably a little light also.

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby topher » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:33 pm

I'm not big on Ajayi, but I think that's a bit much to move up 2 spots.

Not sure if Lee and a 2nd would be enough, but you can certainly ask. What about Thompson and a 2nd if he needs RB more than WR.

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby Trevormortis » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:39 pm

I would try and add a 2nd and keep Ajayi out of it.
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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby HughHoney » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:49 pm

I think there is a significant drop after 1.04. Maybe that changes after the draft but right now it’s a big difference for me. Certainly more than Lee or a 2nd and probably more than Ajayi for me.

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby bainer3 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:42 pm

HughHoney wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:49 pm I think there is a significant drop after 1.04. Maybe that changes after the draft but right now it’s a big difference for me. Certainly more than Lee or a 2nd and probably more than Ajayi for me.
Has ajayi really gone down that much? I value him around 1.5-1.7, although his market value is too low in comparison to his boom potential.

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby bainer3 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:50 pm

topher wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:33 pm I'm not big on Ajayi, but I think that's a bit much to move up 2 spots.

Not sure if Lee and a 2nd would be enough, but you can certainly ask. What about Thompson and a 2nd if he needs RB more than WR.
I will offer him both and see what he thinks!

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby Space Cowboy » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:14 pm

I agree there's a big drop off after 1.04 in non SF leagues. If you have to slightly overpay, do it and get a top flight RB to build around.

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby NFL-ons » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:54 am

bainer3 wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:05 pm For team 1 in sig

I’m thinking of moving up to 1.4 from 1.6. I really think there is a drop offf after 1.4/5.

I expressed interest in it and he immediately started with ajayi +1.6. But he is known for going really high to start.

I’m thinking of offering lee and 1.6, does that sound about right? If not, what are your suggestions?
Looks fair to me but I no longer own any Ajayi shares.

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby BradysBunch » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:32 am

I would not consider moving down from 4 to 6 until after the draft for Lee or a 2nd. I guess if that 2nd was really early.. maybe. But not 2.6. I want to make sure I am getting one of my guys first. Everyone is different...can't hurt throwing those offers though.
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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby Mephistopheles » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:35 am

I'm currently looking to move from 1.4 to 1.5 in a couple leagues and my asking price has been around 1.10-1.11 or a 2019 1st.
Ajayi is quite a bit more than that I think.
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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:39 am

i would move ajayi and try to get something of value back other than a 2 spot move.

for example i moved from 6 to 4 last year in a draft and i gave russ wilson and received phil rivers.
maybe ask for a rb back in the deal who you still like but maybe not as much as ajayi
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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby Goddard » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:07 am

Lee isn't going to get it done and Ajayi would be an overpay to move up 2 spots. As long as your draft isn't in the next two days, I'd wait till after the NFL draft to make this trade.

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Re: What would it take to go from 1.6 to 1.4

Postby Johnny Canuck » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:19 am

Trading Ajayi to move up two spots is beyond ridiculous.

Ajayi is young, has a clear path to playing time, and is on one of the NFLs best offences. NTM he produced decently when he was on Philly.

When you draft a player at 1.04, you're hoping he'll have the same situation at Ajayi...and you're moving him to simply move up two spots...wow. Give the guy an offseason to learn the playbook at least. Selling Ajayi now, is the epitome of selling low on him.

Yes there's a difference between 1.04 and 1.06, but Ajayi is a huge ask. Just no.

This is the type of deal that shouldn't be made before the draft...you need to know where players are going to be before paying the iron price for them.

Let's run through a scenario to further illustrate this

Hypothetical Skill Player NFL Draft:
NYG @ 2 = Barkley
Dal @ 19 = Ridley
Buff @ 22 = DJ Moore
TB @ 38 = Guice
Det @ 40 = Michel
GB @ 45 = Sutton
Car @ 55 = Chubb
Indy @ 67 = Rojo
Den @ 71 = Penny

Those are 9 potential landing spots in this hypothetical draft. Now in this situation maybe Rojo/Penny (or both) climb up boards, and one/two of Chubb/Michel drops. We simply don't know, and don't even have the data to accurately guesstimate at this point.

Even if the assumed top 4 stay the same (barkely, guice, chubb, michel), you can't tell me that Michel in Detriot or Chubb in Carolina, is worth significantly more than Ridley in Dallas, or Sutton in GB. It's at least a conversation, and the difference certainly isn't Ajayi...

No one would of thought Dalvin Cook was going to slip last season, then he landed in a perceived bad spot on Minny...and I saw him mocked all around 1.04-1.06 last draft season.

Just wait till the draft, at least you know what you're buying then


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