Martavis or Hurns

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Martavis or Hurns

Postby playa_hata » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:41 pm

Nothing crazy just coming down to the last players in start up im debating between hurns or martavis ... kinda leaning towards martavis.
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby skip » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:52 pm

I prefer Hurns but I'm sure there will be plenty voting for Martavis. I just don't trust him. He supposedly got himself cleaned up last off season and was supposed to be the amazing talent. Instead he was a bit of a head case and lost his job (more or less). It wouldn't surprise me at all if he remains as little more than a background player for the time he's still with the Steelers. This assumes you will be playing one of the two this season and looking at your WR corps, you will almost certainly be at that point. If this is strictly about future value, then take Bryant.
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby jpusmc0311 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:55 pm

I love Hurns' situation in Dallas... I would put him slightly ahead of Martavis
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby RB6 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:37 pm

Martavis. Can see the argument for Hurns though.
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby Goddard » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:01 pm

I'd move Hurns for Bryant, but then I'd quickly flip him for something else.

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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby kamihamster » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:47 pm

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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:50 pm

Hurns by a little for me, but I could see either side.
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby jonf86 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:19 pm

Goddard wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:01 pm I'd move Hurns for Bryant, but then I'd quickly flip him for something else.
My thoughts exactly. Imagine Bryant would fetch more on the open market.
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:14 pm

Hurns for me. I just don’t really trust Bryant and there’s so many mouths to feed in Pittsburgh.

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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby Mkh3225 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:15 pm

Martavis for me, never been a huge Hurns believer and I think Martavis is an excellent bounce-back candidate. Still, I think its mostly a matter of preference in their current situations, Hurns is currently like the only WR Dallas has left so its a decent opportunity for him but I just think Martavis will be better overall in the long-run.
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby UnsafeAtAnySpd » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:46 pm

I'd go with the upside of Bryant over the floor of Hurns especially considering your current receivers. Then hold until at least next offseason even if he doesn't get much playing time in anticipation of the inevitable perceived value bump when he signs elsewhere. That is, if he makes it that long without league discipline for another screw-up.

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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby M-Dub » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:19 am

I know this makes no sense, but I somehow agree with literally everyone else in this thread. Haha. If you’re looking for a safe bye week fill-in with a higher floor, you take Hurns. If you’re looking to swing for the fences, you take Martavis and cross your fingers that he behaves himself off the field. With your WR corps, I’d probably lean towards Martavis. You have plenty of “safe,” high floor WR3 types. I think you can afford to take a chance on Martavis. Worst case scenario, you missed out on Allen ho-hum Hurns. Even if Martavis failed a drug test next week, I seriously doubt you’re gonna lose much sleep over that minor blunder.
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby McCloskey22 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:29 am

Hurns is a role player. Martavius has the real upside
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:41 am

hurns based off situation, bryant on long term value and talent (imo)
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Re: Martavis or Hurns

Postby saw061600 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:45 am

Hurns. Better situation for this year, regardless of what happens in draft. Better history. No (knock on wood) league violations; at least not that I recall.
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