Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

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Bell, J Gordon, 2.01
6
19%
D Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09
26
81%
 
Total votes: 32

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Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby Mkh3225 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:04 pm

For team 1 in my sig. Pretty self-explanatory pick a side in the poll and if you'd like, explain why... thanks again for the feedback everyone!

Give: Bell, J Gordon, 2.01

Get: Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09
80's TV Shows Dynasty: Hill Street Blues
2016 League Champs
12 team, 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 24 man
QB: Luck, Rivers
RB: Shady, M Gordon, Aa Jones, Ty Montgomery, Prosise, K Dixon
WR: Julio, Adams, Hilton, J Gordon, DJ Moore, J Brown, K White, Richardson, Trent Taylor, Tyr Williams
TE: Gronk, Reed, Olsen, Jonnu, Gesicki
D/ST: N/A
K: Tucker

Turf Wars Dynasty League: Hawkins Demogorgons
12-team: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF (full ppr) 28 man
QB- Luck Goff
RB- J Howard Guice Penny Carson Burkhead Bernard Edmonds
WR- Cooper Allen Watkins Fuller A Miller R. Matthews Tyr Williams Lockett Kearse Grant Allison Butler Lasley
TE- Gronk OJ Howard Fumagalli
D/ST- PIT

Marvel Legends: Captain America
12 team 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 25 man, 2 Taxi
QB: Winston Trubisky
RB: Guice R Freeman D Foreman Abdullah Aa Jones Montgomery Prosise Dixon
WR: C Davis DJ Moore DJ Chark Callaway Lockett K White Henderson Hollins Darboh
TE: Henry Everett ASJ M Andrews
D/ST: CAR
K: Succop

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby M-Dub » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:38 pm

I think Bell is clearly the best piece in the deal, but this is one of those rare cases where the “quarters” you’re getting add up to way more than the “dollar bill” you’re giving up. You’re getting a top 10 RB, a top 10 WR, an elite, top 3 TE and a late 1st for an elite, top 3 RB, a talented-but-troubled WR with top 10 upside who is one puff away from early retirement and an early 2nd.

Here’s how I’d break it down:

Freeman + Julio = Bell
Gronk > Gordon
1.09 > 2.01

The concerns about Gronk retiring are about as valid as the concerns about Bell sitting out or retiring. I don’t put much stock in either. So assuming both play this year as expected, I think this makes you a much stronger team all around.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby Mkh3225 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:11 pm

Ya tbh this is kind of like a best case scenario type of deal, what is more likely is something like:
Give: Bell + Gordon
Get: Julio, Gronk, Freeman

Either that or i'd probably be willing to swap TY in for Gordon as he already has Landry so I doubt he'd want 2 Browns WRs.
80's TV Shows Dynasty: Hill Street Blues
2016 League Champs
12 team, 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 24 man
QB: Luck, Rivers
RB: Shady, M Gordon, Aa Jones, Ty Montgomery, Prosise, K Dixon
WR: Julio, Adams, Hilton, J Gordon, DJ Moore, J Brown, K White, Richardson, Trent Taylor, Tyr Williams
TE: Gronk, Reed, Olsen, Jonnu, Gesicki
D/ST: N/A
K: Tucker

Turf Wars Dynasty League: Hawkins Demogorgons
12-team: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF (full ppr) 28 man
QB- Luck Goff
RB- J Howard Guice Penny Carson Burkhead Bernard Edmonds
WR- Cooper Allen Watkins Fuller A Miller R. Matthews Tyr Williams Lockett Kearse Grant Allison Butler Lasley
TE- Gronk OJ Howard Fumagalli
D/ST- PIT

Marvel Legends: Captain America
12 team 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 25 man, 2 Taxi
QB: Winston Trubisky
RB: Guice R Freeman D Foreman Abdullah Aa Jones Montgomery Prosise Dixon
WR: C Davis DJ Moore DJ Chark Callaway Lockett K White Henderson Hollins Darboh
TE: Henry Everett ASJ M Andrews
D/ST: CAR
K: Succop

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby M-Dub » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:18 pm

If he wants more, I’d try to throw in Reed or Olsen and keep the pick upgrade rather than take the picks out of the deal. If he insists on sending Hunter Henry and keeping Gronk, I’d take the 2.01 off of your end. If you’re giving up an elite talent like Bell, it has to be an overpay, and he should understand that.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby Goddard » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:57 am

I thought this thread already existed, but I think the other one was with Hunter Henry instead of Gronk. I'd probably lean towards the Freeman side here.

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby Mkh3225 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:35 pm

Goddard wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:57 am I thought this thread already existed, but I think the other one was with Hunter Henry instead of Gronk. I'd probably lean towards the Freeman side here.
It did lol, the reason I posted two was for the polls, I agree with everyone that this is a bit idealistic on my end but wanted to confirm my suspicions.
80's TV Shows Dynasty: Hill Street Blues
2016 League Champs
12 team, 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 24 man
QB: Luck, Rivers
RB: Shady, M Gordon, Aa Jones, Ty Montgomery, Prosise, K Dixon
WR: Julio, Adams, Hilton, J Gordon, DJ Moore, J Brown, K White, Richardson, Trent Taylor, Tyr Williams
TE: Gronk, Reed, Olsen, Jonnu, Gesicki
D/ST: N/A
K: Tucker

Turf Wars Dynasty League: Hawkins Demogorgons
12-team: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF (full ppr) 28 man
QB- Luck Goff
RB- J Howard Guice Penny Carson Burkhead Bernard Edmonds
WR- Cooper Allen Watkins Fuller A Miller R. Matthews Tyr Williams Lockett Kearse Grant Allison Butler Lasley
TE- Gronk OJ Howard Fumagalli
D/ST- PIT

Marvel Legends: Captain America
12 team 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 25 man, 2 Taxi
QB: Winston Trubisky
RB: Guice R Freeman D Foreman Abdullah Aa Jones Montgomery Prosise Dixon
WR: C Davis DJ Moore DJ Chark Callaway Lockett K White Henderson Hollins Darboh
TE: Henry Everett ASJ M Andrews
D/ST: CAR
K: Succop

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby Mjvb5 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:38 pm

Freeman side for same reasons as before

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:39 pm

Instant accept.
Freeman + Julio > Bell
Gronk >> Gordon
1.09 > 2.01
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:56 am

very interesting that the ony thing that changes is josh gordon vs Diggs and the poll results are wildly different lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:20 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:56 am very interesting that the ony thing that changes is josh gordon vs Diggs and the poll results are wildly different lol
Because Diggs >>> Gordon
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Pick a side Bell, J Gordon, 2.01 for Freeman, Julio, Gronk, 1.09

Postby Mkh3225 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:59 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:56 am very interesting that the ony thing that changes is josh gordon vs Diggs and the poll results are wildly different lol
Ya thats exactly why I posted both. Was curious to see how much the results would change. However, the other difference was that the other poll included Hunter Henry instead of Gronk.
80's TV Shows Dynasty: Hill Street Blues
2016 League Champs
12 team, 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 24 man
QB: Luck, Rivers
RB: Shady, M Gordon, Aa Jones, Ty Montgomery, Prosise, K Dixon
WR: Julio, Adams, Hilton, J Gordon, DJ Moore, J Brown, K White, Richardson, Trent Taylor, Tyr Williams
TE: Gronk, Reed, Olsen, Jonnu, Gesicki
D/ST: N/A
K: Tucker

Turf Wars Dynasty League: Hawkins Demogorgons
12-team: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF (full ppr) 28 man
QB- Luck Goff
RB- J Howard Guice Penny Carson Burkhead Bernard Edmonds
WR- Cooper Allen Watkins Fuller A Miller R. Matthews Tyr Williams Lockett Kearse Grant Allison Butler Lasley
TE- Gronk OJ Howard Fumagalli
D/ST- PIT

Marvel Legends: Captain America
12 team 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K (full ppr) 25 man, 2 Taxi
QB: Winston Trubisky
RB: Guice R Freeman D Foreman Abdullah Aa Jones Montgomery Prosise Dixon
WR: C Davis DJ Moore DJ Chark Callaway Lockett K White Henderson Hollins Darboh
TE: Henry Everett ASJ M Andrews
D/ST: CAR
K: Succop


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