DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

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DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby bot » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:03 am

I apologize in advance for this not being a cut and dry question. For team in sig. Owner with DJ and 1.02 is very WR needy and has been trying to get guys like Cooks, Thielen and Keenan off me for a few weeks with a crap load of 2nd rounders. We actually talked last night and he kind of said he would be open to some kind of package where he moves either DJ or the 1.02 for a WR which now piqued my interest. I have some ideas, but before I add them I wanted to see what the forum saw as potential moves I could make here that would improve my squad overall. He also said he does not value Davis as equal to 1.02 nor value the 1.01 to DJ for some context.

Some things he has that interest me - DJ, 1.02, 2.02, 2.03
Players he expressed interest in - Cooks, Thielen, Corey Davis, Funchess

Keeping in mind that he needs to get a WR in return, what is a fair offer for me to get DJ or the 1.02 or is it not even worth it as I end up losing too much WR depth?

EDIT - he just sent me DJ, 2.02 for 1.01 and Thielen. He said he is taking all the risk by taking Barkley since he hasn't played a snap in the NFL yet.
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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:21 am

Cooks is worth the 1.02 for me. A lot of people are down on him because of his landing spot, but I don't think that changes his value much for me. 3 straight 1000 yard seasons before his 25th birthday for a good RB prospect is a fair deal. I wouldn't pay much more. DJ will cost much more. I think that's a good place to start. Cooks for 1.02
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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby bot » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:19 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:21 am Cooks is worth the 1.02 for me. A lot of people are down on him because of his landing spot, but I don't think that changes his value much for me. 3 straight 1000 yard seasons before his 25th birthday for a good RB prospect is a fair deal. I wouldn't pay much more. DJ will cost much more. I think that's a good place to start. Cooks for 1.02
That was actually my very first offer to him and he said he needed someone more "consistent" if he was going to trade that pick lol. I sent him a screen shot of Cooks' totals from his first three years because I thought that was pretty consistent, but, ya know.......

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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby jwb32 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:10 am

Value wise 1.01 and DJ are very close. I prefer 1.01 straight up due to age, situation, and wear and tear but many might disagree Adding Theilen, who I'd value at around the 1.08/1.09 makes this an overpay for me.....though I do consider Theilen a sell-high candidate.
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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby Bot101 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:18 am

Hes taking all the risk because Barkley hasnt taken an NFL snap yet? Tell that used car salesman to hit bricks. DJ has plenty of risk on his own. And he wants Theilen on top? Wow hes just such a nice friend to take all the risk from those two players off your hands.

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Theilen > 2.02

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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:21 am

bot wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:19 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:21 am Cooks is worth the 1.02 for me. A lot of people are down on him because of his landing spot, but I don't think that changes his value much for me. 3 straight 1000 yard seasons before his 25th birthday for a good RB prospect is a fair deal. I wouldn't pay much more. DJ will cost much more. I think that's a good place to start. Cooks for 1.02
That was actually my very first offer to him and he said he needed someone more "consistent" if he was going to trade that pick lol. I sent him a screen shot of Cooks' totals from his first three years because I thought that was pretty consistent, but, ya know.......
Yeah, people over value rookies. A lot of people assume the ceiling when they own the pick. I'd wait to see landing spots, too. Guice could go to Pittsburgh, and then he might do that deal in a heartbeat.
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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:22 am

I would just stay put if I were you, I think you are in a better position with what you have than you would be if you took any of his offers.

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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:23 am

bot wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:03 am I apologize in advance for this not being a cut and dry question. For team in sig. Owner with DJ and 1.02 is very WR needy and has been trying to get guys like Cooks, Thielen and Keenan off me for a few weeks with a crap load of 2nd rounders. We actually talked last night and he kind of said he would be open to some kind of package where he moves either DJ or the 1.02 for a WR which now piqued my interest. I have some ideas, but before I add them I wanted to see what the forum saw as potential moves I could make here that would improve my squad overall. He also said he does not value Davis as equal to 1.02 nor value the 1.01 to DJ for some context.

Some things he has that interest me - DJ, 1.02, 2.02, 2.03
Players he expressed interest in - Cooks, Thielen, Corey Davis, Funchess

Keeping in mind that he needs to get a WR in return, what is a fair offer for me to get DJ or the 1.02 or is it not even worth it as I end up losing too much WR depth?

EDIT - he just sent me DJ, 2.02 for 1.01 and Thielen. He said he is taking all the risk by taking Barkley since he hasn't played a snap in the NFL yet.
Doesn't sound like a deal is getting done with this guy on DJ. I would value Davis at about 1.03-1.04, pesonally, so I would throw a 2nd on top of him to get a shot at Guice or Chubb, but give me the 1.01 over DJ all day in this particular draft class.
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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby Nightmares » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:27 pm

Stay put. You have Cook, Henry and about to add Barkley. You have studs and depth at every other position. That is a nice squad.

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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby Goddard » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:31 pm

His new offer isn't bad at all. I think it helps your team, but you're already looking good so not necessarily a move you have to make.

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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby Edgy68 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:13 am

No need to trade for an older stud (who may have done it before but has a new offensive scheme this year) when you'll be adding Barkley instead at his age and reportedly comparable if not better skill level. You hold all the cards: the pick he wants, the WR he wants,...Let him draft that WR in the early 2nd instead.
If you do a deal to send him a WR, it should not include the 1.01. He's looking for a DJ replacement and trying to do it through you.
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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby collbey » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:55 pm

Stay. You have a good team with no real needs and don't have to make a move. If someone needs to overpay it is him, not you. As for the latest offer, I know Barkley hasn't played a snap but I am not trading him for DJ, the 5 years age difference is huge.

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Re: DJ, 1.01, 1.02 - What would you do?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:04 pm

Keep Barkley. He's got age insulation and is super talented. Risk because Barkley hasn't stepped on an NFL field yet? Pfft. Barkley is as safe a prospect as you'll get.
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