How is it "extremely misleading" ? It says Goff/Engram "+" you literally only have to look right below to see what the plus is.. I wouldn't want someone who hasn't read the post to vote anyway because you'll miss a ton of important information such as the contract status ect...BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:22 am why people make their own polls extremely misleading is beyond me
josh gordon and a 1.07 are not minimal gap closers to me
SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens
Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
The value of the 1.07 is an important part of this trade, as it seems the only way you can lock in cheap QB contracts is to draft them. I agree Wentz is more valuable than Goff and I love Ertz, but Engram showed up in a big way and Gordon seems to have turned over a new and less illegal leaf. Goff is improving, so the extra pieces and Ertz's high $ sway me to the pick side.
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12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
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12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
Fair enough. Thanks for the response.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:46 amEngram is a superior athlete and is a lot faster than Ertz. Look at their careers, it took Ertz a few years to get going. Engram just put together a huge rookie season and still looked raw. He'll take over as the TE1 in the next 2-3 years once Kelce's injuries and concussions start catching up to him.
I’m not sure what the Giants will look like beyond 2018, but I have a feeling Engram will regress this year. He saw 115 targets, fueled by a lack of options in that offense last year. OBJ will return and soak up a ton of targets like usual. Marshall was cut and will be replaced, most likely.
I look at Errz’s second season as a decent comparison to Engrams rookie year. Ertz put up a very similar stat line (58/700/3 on 89 targets) to Engrams rookie year (64/700/6 on 115 targets).
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