SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
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SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
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SUPERFLEX, PPR, TE PREM (1.5) $500 cap.
Wentz (3 years $10), Ertz (3 year $35)
or
Goff (2 years $10), Engram (3 years $10), Josh Gordon (2 years $10), 1.07
Which side do you like more?
I'm on the Wentz/Ertz side. That extra year of control from Wentz to Goff is huge to me because top QBs go for insane prices in free agency Drew Brees went for $62...
SUPERFLEX, PPR, TE PREM (1.5) $500 cap.
Wentz (3 years $10), Ertz (3 year $35)
or
Goff (2 years $10), Engram (3 years $10), Josh Gordon (2 years $10), 1.07
Which side do you like more?
I'm on the Wentz/Ertz side. That extra year of control from Wentz to Goff is huge to me because top QBs go for insane prices in free agency Drew Brees went for $62...
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QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
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QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens
Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
Wentz/Ertz pretty handily IMO
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
I’d take the Wentz/Ertz side also, but overall its a fair offer. The 1.07 is a valuable pick in Superflex as you are guaranteed either a top-3RB, top-3QB, or the top wideout. Josh Gordon is a complete gamble, as that could be wasted cap money or a decent investment. I don’t think we will ever see 2013Flash again, so to me its kind of meh. Engram at $10 a year is a good deal too, but Ertz is in a more stable situation tied to a young elite passer.
Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
Wentz side for me too. The Ertz contract isn't as good as some of those other contracts, but he's still worth more than Engram. And 3 years of Wentz compared to 2 years of Goff isn't close at all.
Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
While I like Wentz a fair amount more than Goff, the 1.07+Gordon makes up for that gap. The 1.07 in this format is going to be plenty valuable. I'll consider the TEs pretty even. Ertz may outscore Engram by a little bit but at 3x the price, that's steep.
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
Wentz and goff are close. Engram is better than ertz and has a much better contract. Gordon is trash but the 1.07 makes it a big win for that side. I don't think it's close.
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
Care to elaborate? That’s a pretty hot take
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
Wentz and Ertz all the way.
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
the 2 best players in this trade are Wentz and Ertz....but i can see how the 1.7 and JG make this a fair trade either way. guess it depends on team need.
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (13th year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave
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QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave
T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (10th year)
QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride
Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
I took Wentz / Ertz side but didn't even notice the 1.07 till after if voted. That makes it much closer! Don't understand how anyone can say anything along the lines of "by a fair bit" when picking. This is pretty even imo.
And I too would love to hear the logic behind "Engram is better than Ertz". I'm not saying it's wrong, but i'd love to hear the reasoning as to why at this point, esp after the season Ertz just came off. Is this more salary related in this trade scenario?
And I too would love to hear the logic behind "Engram is better than Ertz". I'm not saying it's wrong, but i'd love to hear the reasoning as to why at this point, esp after the season Ertz just came off. Is this more salary related in this trade scenario?
Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
The part that I think isn't close at all is the QBs. Not only is Wentz already a top 3 asset in a SF, but you're getting him for dirt cheap and an extra year on top of Goff. The gap there is much larger than any gap with the rest of this offer, and I'm not even sure there's much of a gap between the rest. Ertz is probably worth around Engram and Gordon, so while the 1.07 is left out, that doesn't cover the huge gap I mentioned between the QBs.
I'm going to assume Wilson and Rodgers are much more expensive than Wentz and have no idea how many years they have on their contracts. With Wentz' contract, he's probably the most valuable piece in the entire league.
I'm going to assume Wilson and Rodgers are much more expensive than Wentz and have no idea how many years they have on their contracts. With Wentz' contract, he's probably the most valuable piece in the entire league.
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
I have Rodgers on a 4 year $45 contract and Wilson has 4 years $50. I completely agree though. The gap between Wentz and Goff is huge with that extra year. Basically in 2 years Goff is going to have a $55-65 contract. Hell Adam Thielen just went for $61 a few days ago in free agency which was insane.Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:19 am The part that I think isn't close at all is the QBs. Not only is Wentz already a top 3 asset in a SF, but you're getting him for dirt cheap and an extra year on top of Goff. The gap there is much larger than any gap with the rest of this offer, and I'm not even sure there's much of a gap between the rest. Ertz is probably worth around Engram and Gordon, so while the 1.07 is left out, that doesn't cover the huge gap I mentioned between the QBs.
I'm going to assume Wilson and Rodgers are much more expensive than Wentz and have no idea how many years they have on their contracts. With Wentz' contract, he's probably the most valuable piece in the entire league.
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
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QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
That's pretty crazy. I can't imagine there would be a bigger bargain than Wentz in that case. Heck, if those are the contracts for some of those other players, not sure I'd move Wentz alone for all of that. Would need a huge overpay.BelichekYourSelf wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:26 amI have Rodgers on a 4 year $45 contract and Wilson has 4 years $50. I completely agree though. The gap between Wentz and Goff is huge with that extra year. Basically in 2 years Goff is going to have a $55-65 contract. Hell Adam Thielen just went for $61 a few days ago in free agency which was insane.Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:19 am The part that I think isn't close at all is the QBs. Not only is Wentz already a top 3 asset in a SF, but you're getting him for dirt cheap and an extra year on top of Goff. The gap there is much larger than any gap with the rest of this offer, and I'm not even sure there's much of a gap between the rest. Ertz is probably worth around Engram and Gordon, so while the 1.07 is left out, that doesn't cover the huge gap I mentioned between the QBs.
I'm going to assume Wilson and Rodgers are much more expensive than Wentz and have no idea how many years they have on their contracts. With Wentz' contract, he's probably the most valuable piece in the entire league.
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
Engram is a superior athlete and is a lot faster than Ertz. Look at their careers, it took Ertz a few years to get going. Engram just put together a huge rookie season and still looked raw. He'll take over as the TE1 in the next 2-3 years once Kelce's injuries and concussions start catching up to him.
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Re: SUPERFLEX TE PREM Wentz, Ertz vs. Goff, Engram+
why people make their own polls extremely misleading is beyond me
josh gordon and a 1.07 are not minimal gap closers to me
josh gordon and a 1.07 are not minimal gap closers to me
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