Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

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.5 PPR 1 QB

Kennan Allen, 1.04, 2.04, 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, Chris Godwin
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26%
Kirk Cousins, Kenny Gollady, Derrick Henry, and OBJ
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74%
 
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Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby lilsoapjetski » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:30 am

I'm in the process of a startup right now so I don't have full teams yet. But a couple days ago I made a trade for OBJ. I'm of the mindset that if you want to acquire a stud, you have to overpay a bit, especially if you're getting a top 2 dynasty asset but did I overpay here?

12 Team .5 PPR 1QB

I gave: Kennan Allen, 1.04, 2.04, 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, Chris Godwin

I received: Kirk Cousins, Kenny Gollady, Derrick Henry, and OBJ

Did I pay too much or is it worth it?
Team 1: 12 Team PPR IDP League: Start 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 2TE 2FLEX 2 DL 2 LB 2 DB 2 FLEX 40 Man Rosters
QB: Rodgers, Winston, Tyrod, Lamar Jackson
RB: Mixon, Foreman, D. Booker, Alfred Morris, Ivory, Nick Chubb, Chase Edmonds, Mike Gillislee, Itto Smith
WR: OBJ, Funchess, Tate, John Ross, Phillip Dorsett, Antonio Calloway, Jordan Lasley
TE: Kelce, Hooper, Butt, RSJ,
DL: Bosa, J.J. Watt, Danielle Hunter, Dante Fowler
LB: Alec Olgletree, Sean Lee, Raekwon McMillian, Darius Leonard,
DB: Landon Collins, Kenny Vaccaro, Josh Jones, Jabrill Peppers


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QB: Russell Wilson, Blake Bortles, Andy Dalton, Chad Kelly, Nathan Peterman
RB: Zeke, Bell, D. Booker, Jamaal Williams, T.J. Yeldon, Tavon Austin, Chase Edmonds, Alfred Blue, Chris Warren
WR: AJ Green, Golden Tate, Fitz, Godwin, Chris Hogan, Desean Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Jordan Lasley, Javon Wims, Deon Cain
TE: Kyle Rudolph, Austin Hooper, Butt

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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:35 am

Keenan Allen + 1.04 >= OBJ
Cousins = 2.04
Golladay >= Godwin
Henry >= 2019 1st + 2019 2nd

Seems pretty fair for both sides.
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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby jonf86 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:36 am

You didn't overpay. I think I prefer the Allen side, but it's very close and I think you could make a compelling argument for either group.
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RB: C. McCaffrey, C. Carson, K. Johnson, R. Penny, J. Samuels, D. Pumphrey
WR: J.J. Smith-Schuster, R. Woods, L. Fitzgerald, J. Nelson, M. Gallup R. Switzer, B. Berrios, C. Batson, R. Higgins, J. Kearse
TE: G. Kittle, I. Thomas, J Doyle, W. Dissly, J. Leggett, J. Gresham, T. Conklin
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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby thomasscheeks » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:38 am

Not a terrible trade but I probably wouldn't have done it. But if you really wanted OBJ, like you said, you gotta pay up. I wouldn't worry about it
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RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
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TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

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RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby BradysBunch » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:40 am

fair
9(yes 9) team / 28 man rosters
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SF/PPR
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Mahomes/TLAW/Fields
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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby honcho55 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:42 am

it would be too much if you got just OBJ, but not by a whole lot. The other parts aren't trivial though.

Golladay for Godwin is kinda a throw in for a trade this big, so lets get rid of that. Cousins has some solid value, to me that can maybe wipe out the 2019 1st. Certainly the 2nd if not. Henry and the 1.04 is pretty dang close by my evaluations. So we're left with Allen, 2.04, and a 2019 1st or 2nd for OBJ. Not even close if you ask me.

I'd have to see a full roster and rules to give a better answer, plus theres bound to be disagreement with my above valuations. But with just this, you didn't even overpay, let alone overpay too much.
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WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Generic Username » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:47 am

I don't think it's "too" much, but depending how team looks after completed startup my preferred side might change

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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby RB6 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:56 am

Pretty fair trade so I'll go with the OBJ side since he's obviously the best piece.
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CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:57 am

jonf86 wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:36 am You didn't overpay. I think I prefer the Allen side, but it's very close and I think you could make a compelling argument for either group.
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BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby hawk2119 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:00 am

Pretty even trade. I'd have a personal preference to the OBJ side but its not by much.

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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby bills2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:06 am

I voted Allen side, but real fair and my vote could change depending on the time of day.

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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby Goddard » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:58 am

I'm probably higher on Allen than most, but I'd pay that for OBJ and Henry pretty easily.

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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby mullmania » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:46 am

At first I thought you paid all of that for OBJ when reading the deal then saw Henry, and a QB 1 coming back to you.

Paid a price but it was fair.

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Re: Was this too much to pay for OBJ?

Postby The Spartans » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:31 pm

Agree with rest. Fair deal for both sides. Good trade!
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