Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

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Which side?

Zeke
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59%
Cook, Engram & 1.07
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31%
Even
4
10%
 
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Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby Phaded » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:35 pm

Not that this is on the table at the moment but conversations are in place..

But - I'm just genuinely curious to see what the community thinks of this one; I know where I lie.

Assume in a vacuum; "normal" starting requirements, PPR.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby Goddard » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:42 pm

I think it's close, but I'd prefer Zeke if I was competing.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby jnappy » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:44 pm

Zeke for me. I'm lower on Engram than most.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby Phaded » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:47 pm

What type of piece would have to be added to the Cook side to sway it in your opinions?
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:48 pm

Yeah, Zeke side. He's about the same age as Cook, who is unproven in many regards and coming off a torn ACL. Engram is good but a regression is bound to happen after his perfect storm rookie season where ever WR got hurt. 1.07 does not do enough for me.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:32 pm

In a vacuum I would take zeke...in a rebuild I would take the package. Zeke and cook are about the same age and two other solid assets good go a long way towards a rebuild.

To your question on what to add to the cook side, I would need maybe another future first(19) or another mid 1st, take out both mids and maybe swap for an early 1st
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby Trevormortis » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:26 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:48 pm Yeah, Zeke side. He's about the same age as Cook, who is unproven in many regards and coming off a torn ACL. Engram is good but a regression is bound to happen after his perfect storm rookie season where ever WR got hurt. 1.07 does not do enough for me.
This for me. I have worries about Cook as well.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby Phaded » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:33 am

What if Engram was swapped for Gronk?
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby bills2 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:34 am

Goddard wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:42 pm I think it's close, but I'd prefer Zeke if I was competing.
Same, real close for me but think I'd have to stick with Zeke. Worried about Cook's durability.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby thomasscheeks » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:49 am

Goddard wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:42 pm I think it's close, but I'd prefer Zeke if I was competing.
Agreed. It's not bad, but not enough to give up a Zeke type player
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby keller569 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:47 pm

I chose Zeke, but I could understand taking the other side. Depends what the teams look like.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby Edgy68 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:26 am

Gronk would make this trade worse due to age and health. He has value, but not longevity. I actually like the package, as I see a rebound for Cook and like the career trajectory of Engram, but I would want another mid 1st or early-mid (projected) 2019 1st to pull the trigger. Zeke is too much of a steady top producer to sell short.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby RB6 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:41 am

This is very close, but I'm taking the Cook package. I like him and see him being an RB1 easily. Engram is a top 4 TE. The 1.07 nets you a nice RB or WR prospect.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby jonf86 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:08 am

Strong offer, but I think I'm keeping Zeke here. Too much uncertainty with Cook coming off the injury.
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Re: Just curious.. Zeke vs Cook+

Postby bot » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:27 am

RB6 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:41 am This is very close, but I'm taking the Cook package. I like him and see him being an RB1 easily. Engram is a top 4 TE. The 1.07 nets you a nice RB or WR prospect.
I like the depth that the Cook package provides so I lean that way. I would prob prefer Engram to Gronk even as Gronk is kind of unmovable at this point and I don't like having players that I can't trade if I need to.
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