Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

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Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby Grizzly » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:01 pm

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Wentz

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Watkins, Ebron, 2018 4th

Thoughts?
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QB - Carson Wentz, Phillip Rivers
RB - Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette, Isaiah Crowell, Dion Lewis, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Carson, Ameer Abdullah, Theo Riddick
WR - Dez Bryant, Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Jarvis Landry, Paul Richardson
TE - Greg Olsen

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby mlynarcm » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:07 pm

For your team I would do it. Watkins's and Ebron's skillset are more in question then Wentz. This makes your team strong in my eyes just draft a new TE to replace Olsen next year
Team 1
12 team league, PPR
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: D. Prescott, K. Cousins,
RB: D. Cook, M. Gordon, T. Cohen, D. Guice, R. Penny J. Mckinnon, L. Murray, C. Edmonds, D. Harris
WR: O. Beckham, D. Adams, K. Allen, J. Edleman, O. Johnson
TE: E. Ebron, G. Kittle

Team 2
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: Mayfield, Winston,
RB: D. Cook, N. Chubb, K. Johnson, G. Bernard, N. Hines
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, A. Brown D. Funchess, Z. Jones, D. Moncrief, M Bryant
TE: G. Kittle, E. Ebron, R.Gronkowski

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:37 pm

Watkins > Wentz in 1QB. I would not do this. You're fine with Rivers and Tyrod.
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:48 pm

not a chance i do this in a 1 qb league
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby RB6 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:51 pm

Watkins side, not close.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby BradysBunch » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:55 pm

I am not a fan of anything you are giving up. I also value the top tier QBs more than most in a one qb league. I would do it.
9(yes 9) team / 28 man rosters
15/17/19/21 Champ
SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/TLAW/Fields
N. Harris/J. Williams/Gibbs/CEH/A. Jones/Hubbard/Haskins/Ingram
Kupp/Jefferson/Chase/Lamb/Hopkins/MT/Watson/Dotson/
Kelce/Hurst

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby TroyH » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:56 pm

In 1QB I would take Watkins side and its not even close.
10-Team League, Non-PPR (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, WR/RB/TE)
QB: Love, Watson, Cousins
RB: JT, Kyren, BRob, Roschon, Miles
WR: AJB, Wilson, Waddle, Puka, Higgins, Hopkins, Jeudy, Jameson Williams
TE: Okonkwo, Thomas
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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby thomasscheeks » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:57 pm

Heck no. This is 1QB, Sammy is worth a lot more than Wentz
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby GridironGuerilla » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:57 pm

It looks to me like you're generally flexing at LEAST 1 WR on a weekly basis, and likely 2. Watkins is your WR 5 but that doesn't leave a ton of depth for injury or any other unforeseen misfortune, and you don't really have the RB depth to substitute confidently in a pinch. I'm not the guy who's generally gonna knock you for losing a little value in a trade involving your WR5 or any other non starting player to bolster a starting position, but in this case I think I'd pass and keep Watkins and Ebron. In my opinion you'll be just fine with Taylor and Rivers for a while and you can find a way to acquire a better QB organically or using some other pieces down the road.
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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby Petrolbomber » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:47 pm

thomasscheeks wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:57 pm Heck no. This is 1QB, Sammy is worth a lot more than Wentz

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby Petrolbomber » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:47 pm

Petrolbomber wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:47 pm
thomasscheeks wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:57 pm Heck no. This is 1QB, Sammy is worth a lot more than Wentz
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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby Maximus891 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:48 pm

BradysBunch wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:55 pm I am not a fan of anything you are giving up. I also value the top tier QBs more than most in a one qb league. I would do it.
This ^^^ for me too
Team 1 (18/19 Champ)
QB- Rivers, Jimmy G, Flacco
RB- LF, Kamara, Henry, Ito, Barber, RoJo, Harris, Brieda,
WR- Hopkins, Evans, Golladay, Foster, McLaurin, Perriman
TE- Kelce, Eifert, Knox, Gronk
Taxi-R Ridley, Love

Team 2 (16/18/19 Champ)
QB- Watson, Goff
RB- Zeke, CMC, Gordon, Chubb, R Freeman, Hunt
WR- MT, M Williams, Kupp, Campbell, Chark, Ross
TE- Henry, Hooper, Andrews

Team 3 (17/18 Champ)
QB- Stafford, Murray
RB- Cook, Gurley, Lindsay, Mixon, Drake
WR- OBJ, Hopkins, TY, Kupp, K Johnson, Parker, Renfrow, Ross
TE- Kittle, I Thomas

Team 4 SF
QB- Wentz, Kelly, Lamar, Brissett, Luck, RG3
RB- Chubb, Cook, KJ, Sony, Montgomery, Gallaman, Sproles
WR- Fuller, Watkins, Sutton, Hollywood, Pettis, Moore, Lee, Funchess, Crowder
TE- Kittle, Henry, Shaheen, LaCosse
Taxi- Gaskins, Love, Harmon, Hurd, Sample

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Re: Wentz Trade - Thoughts?

Postby Grizzly » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:08 am

GridironGuerilla wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:57 pm It looks to me like you're generally flexing at LEAST 1 WR on a weekly basis, and likely 2. Watkins is your WR 5 but that doesn't leave a ton of depth for injury or any other unforeseen misfortune, and you don't really have the RB depth to substitute confidently in a pinch. I'm not the guy who's generally gonna knock you for losing a little value in a trade involving your WR5 or any other non starting player to bolster a starting position, but in this case I think I'd pass and keep Watkins and Ebron. In my opinion you'll be just fine with Taylor and Rivers for a while and you can find a way to acquire a better QB organically or using some other pieces down the road.
Thanks for the feedback everyone, much appreciated.

Here is the issue, our league allows us to keep up to 16 players per year and our scoring system heavily values RB (and mobile QB) considering the .2 pts per carry. With that said, I am aiming to keep all RB's heading into next year which means Ebron is my 17th on roster and my first cut so he is lost anyway. This leaves me trading Watkins (WR5) and a late fourth for Wentz (QB1).

WR5 for a young QB1... hard for me to feel like this is really better for my team. I don't want to invest in QB @ 1.11 this year when I can go RB/WR and seek a Watkins replacement.
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Double Cup Dynasty
12 Team Dynasty (Year 5)
1qb / 2rb / 2wr / 1te / 2flex (rb/wr/te)
16 players kept YOY
.5 PPR / .2 PP carry

GRIZZLY
QB - Carson Wentz, Phillip Rivers
RB - Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette, Isaiah Crowell, Dion Lewis, Marshawn Lynch, Chris Carson, Ameer Abdullah, Theo Riddick
WR - Dez Bryant, Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Jarvis Landry, Paul Richardson
TE - Greg Olsen

2018 - 1st rd, 2nd, 5th
2019 - 1st rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th


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