Blockbuster Trade Offer

[colonnaj94]

So I was just offered DeAndre Hopkins for my 1.01 & Sterling Shepard in a 32 team .5 PPR 2x player copies league (Depth is like a 16 team league) Leaning towards Hopkins here, but I do really need good RBs on this roster.. Not sure if I can trust Jones/Mack to be RB2s..

What do you guys think?

Team 3 in my signature. Thanks!

[AresGodOWar]

Hopkins he is the #1 dynasty asset

[colonnaj94]

Hopkins he is the #1 dynasty asset

I agree, but does it make sense, given the current state of my team?

[Benny5]

If Barkley goes to the Browns I'd keep the 1.1 and Shepard. Shepard might be in great position if Giants move on from OBJ. And if not, can still look at Barkley and Shepard combo as solid cornerstones to an upcoming team. 32 team league even with copies still means depth isn't easy and obtaining elite guys isn't easy... an rb who catches passes in a ppr league can hold more value than an elite WR... albeit the tradeoff on RBs vs WR is you're possibly looking at 2-5yr window vs a WR 6-10yr window... so you need to weigh that as well. Which is also why most would say take Hopkins. Especially if you're still years from being a contender.

This could go either way... I'd want Hopkins plus some picks since your roster needs help.... and the Barkley hype could warrant that for sure...

But a patient plan holding firm on Barkley and seeing where Shepard develops... could also be a move if you're a true fan of Barkley...

On the fan note, if Barkley goes to the Giants you'd then have two Giants to root for or hate that you own... so that could weigh in as well. Being that it's dynasty I tend to value players appropriately however there's some guys I don't care about at all because I don't like their teams and vice versa... I'll be a homer for certain players cause I like them or their teams and I'll overpay. However if your team has 3+ of guys from one team you could be setting yourself up for some rough weeks on their down weeks.

Could also play roulette and sit on any and all trades until you see the landing spot for Barkley. Inevitably you'll lose some offers but I'm sure in a 32 team league somebody's biting at the chance to own Barkley... i.e. Maybe something even better than Hopkins...

[AresGodOWar]

Hopkins he is the #1 dynasty asset

I agree, but does it make sense, given the current state of my team?

Hopkins is young enough to build around , Shep is ok but if OBJ stays there he is a WR2/3 and I'm not as high as most on Barkley if I was to trade Hopkins for a RB it would be someone like Gurley or Zek.. Or another option is a young upcoming RB and WR someone like Kamara , Hunt , Cook , LF plus a WR like Allen , Adams , Hill , ARob.. You know what I mean a 2 for 1 but 2 studs not a rookie and a blaa WR

[AresGodOWar]

If Barkley goes to the Browns I'd keep the 1.1 and Shepard. Shepard might be in great position if Giants move on from OBJ. And if not, can still look at Barkley and Shepard combo as solid cornerstones to an upcoming team. 32 team league even with copies still means depth isn't easy and obtaining elite guys isn't easy... an rb who catches passes in a ppr league can hold more value than an elite WR... albeit the tradeoff on RBs vs WR is you're possibly looking at 2-5yr window vs a WR 6-10yr window... so you need to weigh that as well. Which is also why most would say take Hopkins. Especially if you're still years from being a contender.

This could go either way... I'd want Hopkins plus some picks since your roster needs help.... and the Barkley hype could warrant that for sure...

But a patient plan holding firm on Barkley and seeing where Shepard develops... could also be a move if you're a true fan of Barkley...

On the fan note, if Barkley goes to the Giants you'd then have two Giants to root for or hate that you own... so that could weigh in as well. Being that it's dynasty I tend to value players appropriately however there's some guys I don't care about at all because I don't like their teams and vice versa... I'll be a homer for certain players cause I like them or their teams and I'll overpay. However if your team has 3+ of guys from one team you could be setting yourself up for some rough weeks on their down weeks.

Could also play roulette and sit on any and all trades until you see the landing spot for Barkley. Inevitably you'll lose some offers but I'm sure in a 32 team league somebody's biting at the chance to own Barkley... i.e. Maybe something even better than Hopkins...

I look at it as this is the time to sell Barkley his value will never be higher if people are already talking about him over Hopkins I mean he can only go down from here.. People say he is the real deal but there is always that chance of a bust since he wasn't a great runner in college just a great receiving back.

[Benny5]

If Barkley goes to the Browns I'd keep the 1.1 and Shepard. Shepard might be in great position if Giants move on from OBJ. And if not, can still look at Barkley and Shepard combo as solid cornerstones to an upcoming team. 32 team league even with copies still means depth isn't easy and obtaining elite guys isn't easy... an rb who catches passes in a ppr league can hold more value than an elite WR... albeit the tradeoff on RBs vs WR is you're possibly looking at 2-5yr window vs a WR 6-10yr window... so you need to weigh that as well. Which is also why most would say take Hopkins. Especially if you're still years from being a contender.

This could go either way... I'd want Hopkins plus some picks since your roster needs help.... and the Barkley hype could warrant that for sure...

But a patient plan holding firm on Barkley and seeing where Shepard develops... could also be a move if you're a true fan of Barkley...

On the fan note, if Barkley goes to the Giants you'd then have two Giants to root for or hate that you own... so that could weigh in as well. Being that it's dynasty I tend to value players appropriately however there's some guys I don't care about at all because I don't like their teams and vice versa... I'll be a homer for certain players cause I like them or their teams and I'll overpay. However if your team has 3+ of guys from one team you could be setting yourself up for some rough weeks on their down weeks.

Could also play roulette and sit on any and all trades until you see the landing spot for Barkley. Inevitably you'll lose some offers but I'm sure in a 32 team league somebody's biting at the chance to own Barkley... i.e. Maybe something even better than Hopkins...

I look at it as this is the time to sell Barkley his value will never be higher if people are already talking about him over Hopkins I mean he can only go down from here.. People say he is the real deal but there is always that chance of a bust since he wasn't a great runner in college just a great receiving back.

Yeah I traded out of the 1.1 in one league to obtain Jimmy G and other picks. And I'm keeping the 1.1 in another league cause I only need a solid RB for that lineup. The Barkley Hype is real. I agree with your post above... if somebody is willing to give up Gurley or Kamara + a top10 YOUNGER WR ... think Michael Thomas even though Brees might be done soon, or Mike Evans who is bound to have a better year, or Davante Adams who is now the wr1 in GB... (not counting Julio and AJG in consideration here due to his current lineup) I'd probably take it.

[pokerplayer1000]

If Barkley goes to the Browns I'd keep the 1.1 and Shepard. Shepard might be in great position if Giants move on from OBJ. And if not, can still look at Barkley and Shepard combo as solid cornerstones to an upcoming team. 32 team league even with copies still means depth isn't easy and obtaining elite guys isn't easy... an rb who catches passes in a ppr league can hold more value than an elite WR... albeit the tradeoff on RBs vs WR is you're possibly looking at 2-5yr window vs a WR 6-10yr window... so you need to weigh that as well. Which is also why most would say take Hopkins. Especially if you're still years from being a contender.

This could go either way... I'd want Hopkins plus some picks since your roster needs help.... and the Barkley hype could warrant that for sure...

But a patient plan holding firm on Barkley and seeing where Shepard develops... could also be a move if you're a true fan of Barkley...

On the fan note, if Barkley goes to the Giants you'd then have two Giants to root for or hate that you own... so that could weigh in as well. Being that it's dynasty I tend to value players appropriately however there's some guys I don't care about at all because I don't like their teams and vice versa... I'll be a homer for certain players cause I like them or their teams and I'll overpay. However if your team has 3+ of guys from one team you could be setting yourself up for some rough weeks on their down weeks.

Could also play roulette and sit on any and all trades until you see the landing spot for Barkley. Inevitably you'll lose some offers but I'm sure in a 32 team league somebody's biting at the chance to own Barkley... i.e. Maybe something even better than Hopkins...

I look at it as this is the time to sell Barkley his value will never be higher if people are already talking about him over Hopkins I mean he can only go down from here.. People say he is the real deal but there is always that chance of a bust since he wasn't a great runner in college just a great receiving back.

While I agree with your opinion of anyone can bust, Barkley was a very good runner in college, he played behind an awful oline. His skillset is ridiculous, but with that said, and for a team that is in a rebuild I would rather build around the #1 Dynasty WR who is 25 then a RB who hasn't played a down, not to mention you pick up another young WR in shepherd.

[Bucky15]

If Barkley goes to the Browns I'd keep the 1.1 and Shepard. Shepard might be in great position if Giants move on from OBJ. And if not, can still look at Barkley and Shepard combo as solid cornerstones to an upcoming team. 32 team league even with copies still means depth isn't easy and obtaining elite guys isn't easy... an rb who catches passes in a ppr league can hold more value than an elite WR... albeit the tradeoff on RBs vs WR is you're possibly looking at 2-5yr window vs a WR 6-10yr window... so you need to weigh that as well. Which is also why most would say take Hopkins. Especially if you're still years from being a contender.

This could go either way... I'd want Hopkins plus some picks since your roster needs help.... and the Barkley hype could warrant that for sure...

But a patient plan holding firm on Barkley and seeing where Shepard develops... could also be a move if you're a true fan of Barkley...

On the fan note, if Barkley goes to the Giants you'd then have two Giants to root for or hate that you own... so that could weigh in as well. Being that it's dynasty I tend to value players appropriately however there's some guys I don't care about at all because I don't like their teams and vice versa... I'll be a homer for certain players cause I like them or their teams and I'll overpay. However if your team has 3+ of guys from one team you could be setting yourself up for some rough weeks on their down weeks.

Could also play roulette and sit on any and all trades until you see the landing spot for Barkley. Inevitably you'll lose some offers but I'm sure in a 32 team league somebody's biting at the chance to own Barkley... i.e. Maybe something even better than Hopkins...

I look at it as this is the time to sell Barkley his value will never be higher if people are already talking about him over Hopkins I mean he can only go down from here.. People say he is the real deal but there is always that chance of a bust since he wasn't a great runner in college just a great receiving back.

Yeah I traded out of the 1.1 in one league to obtain Jimmy G and other picks. And I'm keeping the 1.1 in another league cause I only need a solid RB for that lineup. The Barkley Hype is real. I agree with your post above... if somebody is willing to give up Gurley or Kamara + a top10 YOUNGER WR ... think Michael Thomas even though Brees might be done soon, or Mike Evans who is bound to have a better year, or Davante Adams who is now the wr1 in GB... (not counting Julio and AJG in consideration here due to his current lineup) I'd probably take it.

I know your post really said much more than this, but I keep seeing people bring up Brees might be done soon when talking about Michael Thomas. Yes, Brees will be done sooner than later. He did just sign a 2 year deal and I fully expect him to see that contract out in NO as the starter through 2018 and 2019 seasons. Conveniently enough for MT, he will begin year 3 of his 4 year rookie deal this season. Meaning he too, is under contract through 2018 and 2019. What I'm getting at is we should not be valuing (or devaluing) MT based on Brees, because MT will be a free agent after 2019. The same year Brees presumably retires. Food for thought.

[colonnaj94]

Thanks for the responses so far, anyone else have an opinion on this?

[RB6]

Nuk.

[hockeyBjj]

This is insane. With OBJ being a royal headcase, Hopkins becomes the clear #1 dynasty asset. Sterling Shepheard doesn't not close the gap between even the greatest rookie ever and the top player in the league

Barkley would have to become the DJ of the 400 point season right out of the gate, and stay at that level until he's 30, for this to work out in the 1.1's favor. Yeah, Barkley looks good and he's as clear an incoming stud as you get in the rookie draft, but this is valuing him greater than Zeke or Gurley before we even know what team he's on or seeing at all how he can perform at the NFL level

[Bad News Barrett]

Dynasty brain says Hopkins. 25 (26 to start the season), top asset

Dynasty Heart says Barkley. Just turned 21, could be the next LT, AP, etc. Running backs win championships

Hopkins has 3-4 years before people are looking down at him, like we are seeing with DT, Dez, and other 29 year old receivers. We won’t get to that point with Barkley for 8 years, IF he is the player he is touted to be

[ausmith26]

This is insane. With OBJ being a royal headcase, Hopkins becomes the clear #1 dynasty asset. Sterling Shepheard doesn't not close the gap between even the greatest rookie ever and the top player in the league

Barkley would have to become the DJ of the 400 point season right out of the gate, and stay at that level until he's 30, for this to work out in the 1.1's favor. Yeah, Barkley looks good and he's as clear an incoming stud as you get in the rookie draft, but this is valuing him greater than Zeke or Gurley before we even know what team he's on or seeing at all how he can perform at the NFL level

My thoughts exactly. I can understand putting Barkley in the conversation with a top 20 asset, but trading the #1 dynasty asset for him is ridiculous regardless of your teams makeup.

[xlur8ed]

Do you know how in love your trade partner is with Barkley? Can you pivot off Shepard to something else? The obvious answer here is Nuk, but I'll be honest, it isn't like I'd slam 'accept' on my mouse...

I'd try massage someone in place of Shepard personally, just looking at the overall construction of your team.