Is this way low or about right?

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Is this way low or about right?

Postby joeya2001 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:19 am

Guy in my league wants Michael Thomas

I was thinking about asking for

Michael Thomas

for

Davante Adams
D'Onta Forman
2018 1.03
2019 First Round pick

is that fair for both sides?
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby JJRules » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:33 am

As an Adams/Foreman owner, I think you're asking for WAY too much. I wouldn't give both of them for MT and certainly wouldn't include a pick on top. This would be an instant reject for me.
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby jp4703 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:35 am

MT price is way too high
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RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
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DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby keebs3 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 am

Yeah I think most people have MT and Adams relatively close. All that extra stuff is just way to much. You might be able to get one of those added, if you find an owner that loves MT. But I can't image any more than that.
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby joeya2001 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:40 am

Ok, Im checking with the owner with his thoughts, I just didn't want to go with a overwhelming offer to insult him, which is why I started here =)
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TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.

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TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby RB6 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:40 am

Adams side very easily.
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby HughHoney » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:43 am

I’m high on Thomas and lower than most on Adams and that is way too much. And I do own both players in different leagues.

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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby doombringer » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:45 am

Way to high.

I feel like you could almost buy any single ff player with that amount.
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby joeya2001 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:56 am

So if I tweak it

MT

For

Adams
Forman
and 2nd 2019 pick
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR

2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs

QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.

Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF

2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
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2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby jp4703 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:01 am

joeya2001 wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:56 am So if I tweak it

MT

For

Adams
Forman
and 2nd 2019 pick
This might be better depending on how people view foreman.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby skip » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:03 am

joeya2001 wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:56 am So if I tweak it

MT

For

Adams
Forman
and 2nd 2019 pick
Too much of a swing the other way. I don't have Thomas and Adams this close. I'd want a 1st round pick in there instead of the 2nd for it to make more sense.
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby crip7300 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:08 am

I think most ppl view MT and Adams as pretty close in value and some might prefer Adams due to the fact he will be playing with Rodgers longer than MT will be with Brees. All the other add on pieces will just have to be negotiated based on perceived value of those pieces by each owner.
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WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:16 am

I'm huge on MT, and even I don't think the difference to Adams is an early first and another first as well

Your Foreman and a 2nd offer isn't close though. I would say MT = Adams + Foreman + mid or future 1st
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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby Hahaclintondix » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:26 am

As a Thomas owner, I’d want Adams plus a first. 1.03 is probably a little much, but it doesn’t hurt to ask. A 2019 1st and Adams is probably a fair offer.

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Re: Is this way low or about right?

Postby believeinthehunter » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:52 am

joeya2001 wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:56 am So if I tweak it

MT

For

Adams
Forman
and 2nd 2019 pick
Foreman was a popular 2nd round pick last year. If you want to think of it, you are basically asking for 2 seconds, and Adams for MT. Personally, I have Adams over MT because of Adam's ability in the red zone, and his ability to win contested catches. I understand Graham will take away some of the red zone looks, but Adams is still poised for a monster year with A Rog back. If you can swing foreman adams and a 2nd for MT, I think you would be winning very handsomely. I don't know if the other owner would be willing to give up that much, but I think it's an appropriate starting point.
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