Brandin Cooks vs 1.02 in startup

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Brandin Cooks vs 1.02 in startup

Postby streitm1 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:51 am

I am in a startup, 12 team 0.5 PPR + 0.5 PPFD, It is the beginning of the 3rd round and ARob, Davis and 1.02 are available.

My person rank is ARob, Davis, 1.02. Just want to get some other thoughts.

ARob is coming of major knee and moving to a new team, so this year I am not expecting a WR1 but a few years from now I can see it.
Davis was 1.01 last year and draft capital through the roof. Titans have new coaches and hopefully Davis is not hampered by injuries this year. That really derailed his rookie campaign. I can see Davis reaching WR1 status as the other receiving targets on the Titans are meh at best.

In my mind ARob and Davis are close. Can a case be made for 1.02 over either?

I appreciate the discussion on ARob and Davis. ARob was sniped just ahead of me. Was was then just meh, so I moved back from 3.04 to 3.08. Davis went 3.05. Brandin Cooks is still available as well was the 2018 1.02. I am not that high in him, but he is high in multiple rankings. What are peoples thoughts on B Cooks vs 1.02?
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby Easy Breesy » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:52 am

I agree with your ranking
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby kamihamster » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:56 am

ADP wise they are all very close to each other. Projected fantasy output are similar for the three. The difference is that we've seen ARob put up big numbers, we've seen glimpses of Davis' potential, and we don't know anything about how Guice/Chubb/Michel will do in the NFL. So from that perspective I'd go with ARob. I don't know if the PPFD skews things toward the RB position, if that's the case I might take the chance on the 1.02. It also depends on who you've drafted already.
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby Goddard » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:57 am

They're all pretty even. Depending on team need, I'd go either Arob or 1.02 and then Davis.

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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby jpusmc0311 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:58 am

I actually have the rankings completely opposite haha.

1.02 > Davis > ARob

I'm just not very high on ARob....
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby RB6 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:01 am

Arob.
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:02 am

ARob and 1.02 are neck and neck. I think Guice has RB1 written all over him. I'd probably go 1.02. Davis is distant third for me.

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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby HughHoney » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:51 am

Space Cowboy wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:02 am ARob and 1.02 are neck and neck. I think Guice has RB1 written all over him. I'd probably go 1.02. Davis is distant third for me.
Agree with this. 1.02 then ARob then Davis for me.

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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby PercyR1 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:28 am

Arob >=1.2. Thennn way less value for me. C.davis. Not a fan of CD

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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby Ewilliams29 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:36 am

If you haven't made the pick yet. i would look at maybe trading back a spot or two. someone will want the 1.02 and maybe you can add a 2nd or 3rd for next year drafts. doesn't hurt to shop picks where youre not in love with a guy
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby character0 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:40 am

I agree with your ARob > Davis > 1.02 ranking

I have Guice at 1.02 and as much as I like him, he hasn't played a snap yet. I'm still high on Davis and willing to wait to see him produce. I definitely have Robinson highest of the group. A little worry after the down year and a knee injury but he already put up a huge season and is only 1.5 years older than Davis.

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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:06 pm

ARob First. Then the 1.02 and CD are almost tied for me.
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby streitm1 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:47 pm

For those who are not high on Davis, is that because of the year he had? Wasn't he consensus 1.01 last year. Based o what you are saying, he would be 1.03 this year. Or is it we rated him to high last year or don't like the situation?

Just trying to get discussion going. Ranking them with no explanation only goes so far.

Thanks for the input.
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:53 pm

streitm1 wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:47 pm For those who are not high on Davis, is that because of the year he had? Wasn't he consensus 1.01 last year. Based o what you are saying, he would be 1.03 this year. Or is it we rated him to high last year or don't like the situation?

Just trying to get discussion going. Ranking them with no explanation only goes so far.

Thanks for the input.
Certainly not consensus. Fournette was the 1.01 in all 3 of my leagues. Davis was 1.01-1.03 depending on the league.
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Re: Allen Robinson vs Corey Davis vs 1.02 in startup

Postby Vcize » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:33 pm

streitm1 wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:47 pm For those who are not high on Davis, is that because of the year he had? Wasn't he consensus 1.01 last year. Based o what you are saying, he would be 1.03 this year. Or is it we rated him to high last year or don't like the situation?

Just trying to get discussion going. Ranking them with no explanation only goes so far.

Thanks for the input.
Arob went earlier in startups via adp last year, both were hurt this year, and Arob's team situation got better while Davis' arguably got worse (Mariota regressed and the Titans don't look like nearly the great landing spot they did a year ago.

Basically Arob was already ahead of Davis and I don't see anything Davis did last year to change that.
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