Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Which side for team 2 in sig

Davante Adams
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57%
Corey Davis and Will Fuller
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43%
 
Total votes: 47

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Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby ramsey8582 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:31 pm

Team 2 in sig.

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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby Golly Dagger » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:19 pm

Damn, I find this to be a very tough trade to evaluate, but I'm still very high on Corey Davis. I went Davis/Fuller, but that's a tough one imo.
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby honcho55 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:32 pm

The value to me is a bit to the Davis side, plus the team in question could use some depth
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:08 am

I voted for CD & Fuller but I'll be honest, I'm not sure I'd have the balls to not take the proven commodity, if given the choice.
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby esloan35 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:36 am

I voted for the 2 for 1..

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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby FKC » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:44 am

Skøl wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:19 pm Damn, I find this to be a very tough trade to evaluate, but I'm still very high on Corey Davis. I went Davis/Fuller, but that's a tough one imo.
I agree. I voted for the Davis side, but I might want to actually change it to the Adam side. I like Davis, but even though I like Mariota, Davis’s quarterback situation scares me a little. I’ve never been a huge fan of Adams, but now with Jordy gone and obviously his quarterback being Rodgers I think I like him quite a bit now. Now that I think about it I might actually want to change to the Adam side all together.
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby JJRules » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:26 am

Davis is still just potential and Fuller has a knack for missing multiple games with various injuries. Adams has proven his ability and projects to improve upon everything he's done to date.

As an owner of all three I would much rather have Adams than the other two and voted accordingly. It's tough tho as you could really use the depth; I wouldn't fault you for making this swap in your specific situation.
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:37 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:08 am I voted for CD & Fuller but I'll be honest, I'm not sure I'd have the balls to not take the proven commodity, if given the choice.
Exactly how I feel. I voted CD and fuller, but if someone in my team 2 offered CD and fuller for my Diggs (very similar value to Adams) I don't think I'd pull the trigger lol
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby moishetreats » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:45 am

It's trades like these, based on my experience, that keep the better teams winning and the rebuilding teams rebuilding.

Don't get me wrong: it's a reasonable offer and one that could be reasonably accepted. But, this isn't a purposeful rebuild*; this is just rolling a die to see if you can get a '6'. Odds are that, when you are ready to compete, you'll be looking to make a trade like this. And odds are that, in the meantime, you'll have two players of lesser value who, at realistic best, will ascend to Adams's value.

Good teams makes trades like these: they get a much better player now with just as high a ceiling for two guys who likely weren't starting for them -- and they get an extra roster spots. Continually rebuilding teams (I'm not suggesting that you are!) make trades like these hoping to hit the lottery with a guy like Davis. Don't bet your rebuild on a single lottery ticket whose maximum payout isn't that much more than the cost of the ticket itself.

You either need to be getting a proven asset on top of this in return (D. Thomas comes to mind) and/or at least another one if not two lottery ticket players or picks so that the possible maximum payout far exceeds what you are giving up.

Getting Davis and Fuller is a faaaaar cry from either of those.

*Unless you are particularly high on Davis and this is the only way to get him. Then just go for it!!
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby skip » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:47 am

I'm admittedly low enough on Adams that I believe we just saw his ceiling as a WR. Davis has just as much (or more) potential in 2018 and I would not sleep on Fuller either. He was exciting when on the field this past season. Assuming he remains healthy this year with Watson's return, there is a lot to like there.
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby RB6 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:59 am

Adams.
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby Johnny Canuck » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:00 am

Adams not close. This poll is beyond ridiculous.

- I'll take the guy that has been a top 10 WR in ppg over the past two yrs (9th in 2016, 6th in 2017), over two guys that will be lucky to be WR2s.

- NTM Adams will only improve on his 2017 season with Rodgers back and Jordy gone. I can only attribute the Adams hate to blatant ignorance at this point. He should be valued as a top 8 WR minimum, and likely higher considering he has a top 3 WR situation.

- I like Fuller a ton and feel like he could become a decent WR2 IF everything breaks right for him this season, but that's still a pretty big "IF", a lot of Fullers projection is dependent on how well Watson returns to his 2017 form. Still he's flashed enough in spurts that I like him a fair bit more than Davis.

- Davis didn't show enough last season to warrant the type of returns ppl are asking for. I'm guessing that draft capital and the last titans game is what's sticking out in ppls memory, but he was pretty bad for most of last season. He absolutely screwed me in multiple games that were against easy passing defences, and couldn't do anything, so maybe I'm just bitter. It could also be growing pains of being a rookie, not getting a training camp in, dealing with injury, among a bunch of other excuses...but he's still not worth what ppl are asking. I'll say it again, he will have to be LUCKY to get into the WR2 conversation this year, he'll be more of a fringe WR2/3 at best this season. Ppl will get pissy but I don't think Davis will be anything more than a rich mans Brian Quick.

I suppose this deal makes sense if you are in a complete rebuild, but you should be able to get more for Adams, or at least better players as part of the package.
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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby Nightmares » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:03 am

Adams for me and I like Davis a lot.

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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby Goddard » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:24 am

The Davis side may have more upside, but I can't see how an Adams owner would move him for that. In terms of "value," it's probably close, but might have to wait another year before this trade makes sense.

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Re: Poll: Adams or Davis and Fuller

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:39 am

moishetreats wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:45 am It's trades like these, based on my experience, that keep the better teams winning and the rebuilding teams rebuilding.

....

Good teams makes trades like these: they get a much better player now with just as high a ceiling for two guys who likely weren't starting for them -- and they get an extra roster spots. Continually rebuilding teams (I'm not suggesting that you are!) make trades like these hoping to hit the lottery with a guy like Davis. Don't bet your rebuild on a single lottery ticket whose maximum payout isn't that much more than the cost of the ticket itself.
This exactly! Adams very easily here. Basically giving up a low end WR1 for a guy you hope might someday become what you gave up (Davis) and a very inconsistent, injury prone WR3 (Fuller).
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