Startup pick vs 2019 rookie pick
Startup pick vs 2019 rookie pick
Where would you value a random 2019 1st in a startup draft? Is there a general rule regarding valuation?
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TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Startup pick vs 2019 rookie pick
I don't think I've ever seen future picks in startups...how does that work? How do you decide where the pick eventually falls?
Re: Startup pick vs 2019 rookie pick
I am currently in a startup draft. Our 2019 picks are available to trade away. I was wondering how to value my 2019 1st vs startup picks. For example....If I offer my 2019 1st for startup pick 8.05 is that a win or lose? I'm not sure how to determine that. Especially since it is truly a completely random 1st.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Startup pick vs 2019 rookie pick
Gotcha...sorry, for some reason I thought 2019 picks were included in the startup draft. I'd have to imagine even a late 2019 1st would be worth more than someone in the 8th round of a startup. I'd look at current ADP and see where some of the rookies this year are going in startups and use that as a guide. Excluding Barkley, who apparently is going in the 1st round of startups and even as early as top 4/5, I'd imagine a mid 1st is probably closer to a 4th/5th round value?jwb32 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:38 pm I am currently in a startup draft. Our 2019 picks are available to trade away. I was wondering how to value my 2019 1st vs startup picks. For example....If I offer my 2019 1st for startup pick 8.05 is that a win or lose? I'm not sure how to determine that. Especially since it is truly a completely random 1st.
Re: Startup pick vs 2019 rookie pick
The general rule is that a future 1st is worth a 6th round pick in a startup draft and a future 2nd is worth a 14th. These are also the values people use when plugging trades into a startup trade calculator.
Personally I've made the argument that given the large bust rate in the 5th/6th rounds of startup drafts, the best move is to trade your 6th for a future 1st or your 5th for a future 1st and 2nd. Not gotten many others onboard the idea yet though.
Personally I've made the argument that given the large bust rate in the 5th/6th rounds of startup drafts, the best move is to trade your 6th for a future 1st or your 5th for a future 1st and 2nd. Not gotten many others onboard the idea yet though.
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Re: Startup pick vs 2019 rookie pick
The general rule I’ve seen is that future 1’s are worth about a 7. I’ve read that 2019 isn’t shaping up to be a great year (though obviously a lot can change quickly). If I’m selling a startup pick blind I’d move an 8 for a 2019 1 if selling while OTC and didn’t like what was left I’d probabl settle for a 7.
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