McKinnon Hype

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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby ESKAY » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:41 pm

You don’t want or need McKinnon, what you should do is put a package together for Thielan Rudolph and Forbath. I have never seen a homer roster like that😂😂

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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby stigskol » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:42 pm

FKC wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:13 pm I would stay put because the MiKinnon hype is ridiculously out of control. There shouldn’t even be any hype around him. If I planned on trying to trade for McKinnon, I’d give nothing more that a 3rd. The Niners are drafting a RB high. They overpaid for a 3rd down back. If you can get an obscene amount for McKinnon I would do it now before it’s too late and you get stuck with him.
Thank you!.. Thats what I kind of figured as well as buying in.
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby stigskol » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:42 pm

ESKAY wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:41 pm You don’t want or need McKinnon, what you should do is put a package together for Thielan Rudolph and Forbath. I have never seen a homer roster like that😂😂
lol
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby stigskol » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:43 pm

stigskol wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:42 pm
ESKAY wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:41 pm You don’t want or need McKinnon, what you should do is put a package together for Thielan Rudolph and Forbath. I have never seen a homer roster like that😂😂
I picked up all the quarterbacks at end of season because I knew they were going to disperse.
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby Guru Master » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pm

FKC wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:13 pm I would stay put because the MiKinnon hype is ridiculously out of control. There shouldn’t even be any hype around him. If I planned on trying to trade for McKinnon, I’d give nothing more that a 3rd. The Niners are drafting a RB high. They overpaid for a 3rd down back. If you can get an obscene amount for McKinnon I would do it now before it’s too late and you get stuck with him.

Follow the money... I believe he is the 4th highest paid RB. When teams commit that much $, they usually give them work. There are always other positions to fill.
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby darewood11 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:47 pm

bigbuck22 wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:19 am I understand to some degree given it is Shanahan's offense, but the asking price on this guy is crazy. If I owned him, I'd be selling in a heart beat if I could find an owner willing to buy.
Selling for what tho? That's wat he's asking

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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby ThePeckers » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:24 pm

His value now > value after week 4. Totally over hyped.
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby Pullo Vision » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:36 pm

It's worth pointIng out the rosters are only 15 deep. OP, are the 5 players cut by each team draftable? If so, who were the top 3 rookies drafted last year, and with what picks were they taken?
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby UnsafeAtAnySpd » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:43 pm

Yeah, McKinnon sucks... He was only the PPR RB8 after Cook went down splitting carries with Murray. Being on the better side of a committee with a team that paid him a lot playing for a coach known for RB production is clearly going to be even worse than those numbers...

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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby FKC » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:58 pm

ThePeckers wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:24 pm His value now > value after week 4. Totally over hyped.
X2. This hype train belongs in the bottom of “Eastwood Ravine” aka “Clayton Revine!”
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby FKC » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:08 pm

Guru Master wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pm
FKC wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:13 pm I would stay put because the MiKinnon hype is ridiculously out of control. There shouldn’t even be any hype around him. If I planned on trying to trade for McKinnon, I’d give nothing more that a 3rd. The Niners are drafting a RB high. They overpaid for a 3rd down back. If you can get an obscene amount for McKinnon I would do it now before it’s too late and you get stuck with him.
Follow the money... I believe he is the 4th highest paid RB. When teams commit that much $, they usually give them work. There are always other positions to fill.
Yes the money says a lot and it says that San Francisco made a very bad deal. He will get some work but he’s not at the value that most everyone is treating him at currently. I could see a lot of McKinnon buyers having regret after the draft. I don’t see the Devonte Freeman comparisons at all and think it’s ridiculous to think that McKinnon will produce similar to that.
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby stigskol » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:33 pm

Thanks Everyone.. I decided to stay put.. I used my 2.07 for Hunter Henry.
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Re: McKinnon Hype

Postby Bisquiteen Trisket » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:37 pm

UnsafeAtAnySpd wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:43 pm Yeah, McKinnon sucks... He was only the PPR RB8 after Cook went down splitting carries with Murray. Being on the better side of a committee with a team that paid him a lot playing for a coach known for RB production is clearly going to be even worse than those numbers...
I’m dumb. Read that wrong. He was indeed RB9 from weeks 5-16. Goes to show you how easy it is to “lie” with statistics... “Come on, McKinnon wasn’t THAT good. Sell him to me cheap. He finished as RB19 over the back half of the year..”. VERSUS “He is already an RB1 headed to a better situation. He was RB9 from weeks 5-16...”

Dumb Original Comment below:
What are your league settings? In standard PPR from weeks 8-16, he was RB19.

Personally I think he will have a solid year where he puts up back end RB2 numbers for the season. Is it possible he finishes as an RB1? Sure. CMC did it this year in a similar situation based mostly on receiving value. McKinnon could potentially do the same thing if everything breaks right for him in SF. Do I think its likely or probable? No. I haven’t seen anything on the football field that would indicate McKinnon is capable of being an RB1 long term. He could do it for a year given a great situation, but I’m not spending a high first on him.


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