Zay Jones Debate Plus

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Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby esloan35 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm

Traded Zay for 3.2 and got some grief. 26th player in this draft over a guy with bad handles seems good to me. Then I was told Marvin Jones is worth 4.4 and Jeremy Hill is worth at least as much. Frustrated owner I guess. Am I missing something?

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby Bay City Original » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:39 pm

I probably wouldn't have let Zay go so soon... and if I did, I'd want a mid-2nd.
Team 1 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF 2022 Champ
QB: Allen, Purdy, Love
RB: Mixon, AJones, Swift, Dillon, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, AJB, DJM, NCollins, Sutton, NCollins, Mingo
TE: Hockenson
1.10

Team 2 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF - 2023 Champ
QB: Murray, Love
RB: Hall, Gibbs, Walker, Dobbins, KMitchell, EMitchell
WR: DSmith, Addison, Kupp DJM, Dionte, Chark
TE: Engram, Mayer, Waller
1.02, 1.09, 2.09, 2.12

Team 3-12 Team, SF, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTFS - 2023 Champ
QB: Purdy, Dak Stafford
RB: Taylor, Henry, Conner Najee, Warren, EMitchell
WR: Samuel, DJM, Cooper Sutton, Bateman, Pierce
TE: Kittle
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby esloan35 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:51 pm

Fair enough, but whoever pays a mid 2nd for a Bills WR who was ranked 95th last year is reaching imo. I would rather reach with the 3rd in this draft. I would of gladly sent him to you for 2.5.

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby jp4703 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:57 pm

WRs aren’t like Rbs where you get instant results. You have to give WRs 2-3 years to show their potential. Zay jones is in a situation where he’s going to continue to get playing time. You shouldn’t give up a player in a situation like that to go draft another player hoping he gets put into a similar situation.

It’s way to soon to give up on him. I actually think he’s going to be a solid wr.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
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2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby Bot101 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:03 pm

I would have held Zay. Everyone is quick to forget that he had a nice breakout game mid season vs the Jets and it would have been even better had he not been tackled in a dirty way which caused a pretty significant injury. He also played with a torn labrum the entire season. His father even said Zay had a hard time holding a cup of water he was in so much pain. He also had the highest percentage of uncatchable passes thrown his way.

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby DynastyDeepDive » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:21 am

I would have held Zay to. 3rd round picks are crap shoots.
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby philsrule06 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:40 am

Dumb trade. This is the same type of trade that ends up haunting a dynasty owner. How many people gave up on a player like Nelson Agholor? He was probably traded for a low pick or even released in many leagues. Need a little patience. Much rather hold a young player a little too long and having him not pan out over trading him for junk & watching him flourish a year or two later.
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QB- Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees
RB- Devanta Freeman, Kareem Hunt, Mark Ingram, Chris Carson, Chase Edmonds
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Antonio Brown, Ty Hill, E. St. Brown
TE- Zach Ertz, Kyle Rudolph, Jack Doyle
K- Brett Maher
Def- Chargers


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Same scoring as above

QB- Derek Carr, Pat Mahomes
RB- Kareem Hunt, M. Gordon, M Breida
WR- Stefan Diggs, Larry Fitz, C. Ridley, DJ Moore, J Brown, J Ross
TE- Olsen, Hurst, I. Thomas
K- J Tucker
Def- Chiefs

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Same scoring as above

QB- Justin Herbert, Tua
RB- Devin Singletary, Raheem Mostert, Myles Gaskin. Marlon Mack
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Copper Kupp, Russell Gage, KJ Hamler, Julian Edelman
TE- Travis Kelce, Robert Tonyan
K- Brandon McManus
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby esloan35 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:51 am

Good points... will hold the trigger a bit longer next time. Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby McCloskey22 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:09 am

Biased Zay owner - but I would have kept him. He had a rough 1st season, but that offense with Tyrod was a mess. Hopefully they get a young QB who opens the playbook up a little. Zay has a long ways to go but I still believe in him. I don't think it is wise, in dynasty, to ditch every player who dissapoints in their rookie season
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QB - Dak Prescott , Alex Smith, Sam Darnold
RB - Ezekiel Elliott , Carlos Hyde , James White, TY Montgomery, Ronald Jones
WR - Mike Evans , Davante Adams , Dez Bryant, Robby Anderson, Zay Jones, Courtland Sutton
TE - Hunter Henry, Tyler Eifert, Rico Gathers, RSJ

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby RB6 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:30 am

Agree with others, should've held over a 3rd. I'd need a mid 2nd.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
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Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby Goddard » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:06 am

esloan35 wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm Traded Zay for 3.2 and got some grief. 26th player in this draft over a guy with bad handles seems good to me. Then I was told Marvin Jones is worth 4.4 and Jeremy Hill is worth at least as much. Frustrated owner I guess. Am I missing something?
That's funny

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby esloan35 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:03 am

Goddard wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:06 am
esloan35 wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm Traded Zay for 3.2 and got some grief. 26th player in this draft over a guy with bad handles seems good to me. Then I was told Marvin Jones is worth 4.4 and Jeremy Hill is worth at least as much. Frustrated owner I guess. Am I missing something?
That's funny
Sounds like by the board I sold short on Zay, but the Hill/Marvin Jones miffs me.

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby Goddard » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:10 am

esloan35 wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:03 am
Goddard wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:06 am
esloan35 wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm Traded Zay for 3.2 and got some grief. 26th player in this draft over a guy with bad handles seems good to me. Then I was told Marvin Jones is worth 4.4 and Jeremy Hill is worth at least as much. Frustrated owner I guess. Am I missing something?
That's funny
Sounds like by the board I sold short on Zay, but the Hill/Marvin Jones miffs me.
I probably would have taken the 3.02 as well. I don't think Zay will ever really be much of a fantasy producer.

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby esloan35 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:21 am

Its probably my league mates commenting. LOL

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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus

Postby diamonddave » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:28 am

zay's as much as a crapshoot as an early 3rd. six in one hand, half dozen in another. i say it's not a bad trade at all.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
LB: Roquan Smith, CJ Mosley, Terrel Bernard Ernest Jones, Quincy Williams
DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
DB: Jason Pinnock


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