Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
For team 1 in my sig:
I give: Bell
I receive: D Henry, Fuller, Watkins, '19 1 (most likely late)
So, I offered this Bell trade about a week ago and the owner just came back to the say he was interested but it "Was a lot to give up." I was honestly more excited about this trade a week ago before Lewis was signed but it still seems like a pretty decent package... what do you guys think? Does this look fair or would you lean one way or the other? I'm planning to contend so am not trying to lose out on too much by trading Bell. All advice is greatly appreciated!
I give: Bell
I receive: D Henry, Fuller, Watkins, '19 1 (most likely late)
So, I offered this Bell trade about a week ago and the owner just came back to the say he was interested but it "Was a lot to give up." I was honestly more excited about this trade a week ago before Lewis was signed but it still seems like a pretty decent package... what do you guys think? Does this look fair or would you lean one way or the other? I'm planning to contend so am not trying to lose out on too much by trading Bell. All advice is greatly appreciated!
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
I voted Bell... more because I don't like the particular players you'd get. I think the deal is "fair".
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
I see, so fair value just not particularly guys you're crazy about?Bay City Original wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:24 pm I voted Bell... more because I don't like the particular players you'd get. I think the deal is "fair".
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
Bell. Not particularly close in a ppr league.
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
Not a bad offer, but not a good one either. Bell.
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
That's a downgrade for your team and Bell value in general...Fuller and Watkins would pretty much be bye week fill-ins, and Henry is clearly less than Bell in the RB spot. A late first next year is nothing right now
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
For me, yes.Mkh3225 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:34 pmI see, so fair value just not particularly guys you're crazy about?Bay City Original wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:24 pm I voted Bell... more because I don't like the particular players you'd get. I think the deal is "fair".
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
I’d keep Bell
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
big big fan of henry but not a huge fan of the other pieces you would be getting. fuller and watkins wouldnt even start for you weekly so nope stick with bell
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
Bell easily.
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
If anything, I'd try to swap one of the receivers (Fuller ideally) for a startable RB. You have the WR depth as is but behind Bell and Shady, RB is a bit weak. Otherwise, as is with your team, I'd stick with Bell.
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
Since the responses were so lopsided here I am going to play devils advocate and take the Henry side.
Bell: 26 years old with Ben on his way out. IF he stays in Pit, how much can we bank on his output at the top 2-3 level, and for how long? IF he doesn’t, he’s 26. RBs don’t age well. Giving you 3 or so years of elite level play if he can steer clear of bong hits and injuries.
Henry: buying at an all time low. Lewis hurts, but he is made of glass. I still see Henry as a weekly RB2, floor as a flex.
Fuller: last year’s numbers were unsustainable. But if Watson is half the man he was last year, you have a weekly YOUNG WR3. Those don’t come around too often. D Hop will also draw a lot of interest on defenses, and allow for a ton of one on one coverages. He’s talented. And I always buy talent.
Sammy: he’s only 24 and coming off a healthy year. Let’s just say because it’s almost inevitable Hill regresses is even worse - gets hurt. Andy Reid + Mahomes should translate to a long time of success. I am buying here, at again, rock bottom value.
2019 first: may be worth nothing now, but will only climb in value. If you don’t want the pick, you can easily package this along with Henry or Watkins for a strong player.
Also, Cousins doesn’t exactly spell great things for Diggs or Thielen from what I’ve read on Rotoviz and DLF. Diggs was already inconsistent with Keenum, and he is better at the deep ball than Cousins in terms of accuracy. Adams could get help in the near future from GB, and if it’s a true Wr1, I’d be weary of the elite WR value some have him pegged as.
Honestly, if I’m not in win now mode, I take this deal.
Bell: 26 years old with Ben on his way out. IF he stays in Pit, how much can we bank on his output at the top 2-3 level, and for how long? IF he doesn’t, he’s 26. RBs don’t age well. Giving you 3 or so years of elite level play if he can steer clear of bong hits and injuries.
Henry: buying at an all time low. Lewis hurts, but he is made of glass. I still see Henry as a weekly RB2, floor as a flex.
Fuller: last year’s numbers were unsustainable. But if Watson is half the man he was last year, you have a weekly YOUNG WR3. Those don’t come around too often. D Hop will also draw a lot of interest on defenses, and allow for a ton of one on one coverages. He’s talented. And I always buy talent.
Sammy: he’s only 24 and coming off a healthy year. Let’s just say because it’s almost inevitable Hill regresses is even worse - gets hurt. Andy Reid + Mahomes should translate to a long time of success. I am buying here, at again, rock bottom value.
2019 first: may be worth nothing now, but will only climb in value. If you don’t want the pick, you can easily package this along with Henry or Watkins for a strong player.
Also, Cousins doesn’t exactly spell great things for Diggs or Thielen from what I’ve read on Rotoviz and DLF. Diggs was already inconsistent with Keenum, and he is better at the deep ball than Cousins in terms of accuracy. Adams could get help in the near future from GB, and if it’s a true Wr1, I’d be weary of the elite WR value some have him pegged as.
Honestly, if I’m not in win now mode, I take this deal.
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Re: Pick a side Bell vs Henry +++
Keep Bell.
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