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Cut Shaheen?
Team in sig.......In a start 2TE league, is Shaheen a drop now with the Burton signing?
10tm Superflex-Start 2TE Dynasty, 0.5ppr, 34 man rosters w/2IR slots
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 1(QB, RB, WR, TE), 1(RB, WR, TE)
QB's: Mahomes, LJax, Garoppolo, Huntley, Minshew, O'Connell
RB's: Chubb, Ekeler, Mixon, Gibbs, Bigsby, Tucker, Latavius, J. Hill, C. Reynolds, D. Jackson
WR's: Kupp, Tyreek, Hopkins, Kennan Allen, Flowers, R. Rice, Cooks, Zay Jones, Bourne, X. Hutchinson, Boutte, C. Austin, Hodgins
TE's: Goedert, Waller, LaPorta, Schultz, J. Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Granson
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd
2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2023
2021 League Champ
2020 2nd place
2019 League Champ
2018 League Champ
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 1(QB, RB, WR, TE), 1(RB, WR, TE)
QB's: Mahomes, LJax, Garoppolo, Huntley, Minshew, O'Connell
RB's: Chubb, Ekeler, Mixon, Gibbs, Bigsby, Tucker, Latavius, J. Hill, C. Reynolds, D. Jackson
WR's: Kupp, Tyreek, Hopkins, Kennan Allen, Flowers, R. Rice, Cooks, Zay Jones, Bourne, X. Hutchinson, Boutte, C. Austin, Hodgins
TE's: Goedert, Waller, LaPorta, Schultz, J. Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Granson
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd
2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2023
2021 League Champ
2020 2nd place
2019 League Champ
2018 League Champ
Re: Cut Shaheen?
Do you have to cut him? If there are roster cuts required or there is a better stash then yeah cut him. If you want to cut him just because of Burton than no keep him for now.
Re: Cut Shaheen?
I mean in a non TE premium only start one league I'm holding for now. We'll see based on roster constraints and how my offseason goes but I'm not convinced on how good Burton actually is.
Team 1 - 12 Team, PPR, All 6TD
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, K, D
QB - Cousins, Luck, Mayfield
RB - Elliot, Thompson, McKinnon, Penny, Michel, Miller, E.McGuire, Foreman, Ekeler
WR - OBJ, Robinson, K.Allen, C.Davis, Allsion, M.Bryant, C.Coleman, Moncrief, P.Richardson, Chark
TE - Reed, Gathers, Shaheen, Seals-Jones
K - Jake Elliott
D - NE, MIA
Picks - 2019: 3-5
Team 2 - 12 Team, SF 0.5 PPR, 4/6TD
1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1SF, 1FLEX, 1TE
QB - Cousins, Goff, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jackson
RB - Gurley, Ingram, Coleman, Clement, Booker, Rawls, Samuels
WR - Hilton, Fuller, Moore, Byrant, Locket, Moncrief, Rogers, Miller, St.Brown,
TE - Gesicki, Clay, McDonald, Andrews
Picks - 2019: 1,2,3x2,4
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, K, D
QB - Cousins, Luck, Mayfield
RB - Elliot, Thompson, McKinnon, Penny, Michel, Miller, E.McGuire, Foreman, Ekeler
WR - OBJ, Robinson, K.Allen, C.Davis, Allsion, M.Bryant, C.Coleman, Moncrief, P.Richardson, Chark
TE - Reed, Gathers, Shaheen, Seals-Jones
K - Jake Elliott
D - NE, MIA
Picks - 2019: 3-5
Team 2 - 12 Team, SF 0.5 PPR, 4/6TD
1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1SF, 1FLEX, 1TE
QB - Cousins, Goff, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jackson
RB - Gurley, Ingram, Coleman, Clement, Booker, Rawls, Samuels
WR - Hilton, Fuller, Moore, Byrant, Locket, Moncrief, Rogers, Miller, St.Brown,
TE - Gesicki, Clay, McDonald, Andrews
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Re: Cut Shaheen?
I certainly don't have to cut him and IMO there really isn't any good stash candidates on the wire. Thanks for the advice.
10tm Superflex-Start 2TE Dynasty, 0.5ppr, 34 man rosters w/2IR slots
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 1(QB, RB, WR, TE), 1(RB, WR, TE)
QB's: Mahomes, LJax, Garoppolo, Huntley, Minshew, O'Connell
RB's: Chubb, Ekeler, Mixon, Gibbs, Bigsby, Tucker, Latavius, J. Hill, C. Reynolds, D. Jackson
WR's: Kupp, Tyreek, Hopkins, Kennan Allen, Flowers, R. Rice, Cooks, Zay Jones, Bourne, X. Hutchinson, Boutte, C. Austin, Hodgins
TE's: Goedert, Waller, LaPorta, Schultz, J. Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Granson
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd
2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2023
2021 League Champ
2020 2nd place
2019 League Champ
2018 League Champ
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 1(QB, RB, WR, TE), 1(RB, WR, TE)
QB's: Mahomes, LJax, Garoppolo, Huntley, Minshew, O'Connell
RB's: Chubb, Ekeler, Mixon, Gibbs, Bigsby, Tucker, Latavius, J. Hill, C. Reynolds, D. Jackson
WR's: Kupp, Tyreek, Hopkins, Kennan Allen, Flowers, R. Rice, Cooks, Zay Jones, Bourne, X. Hutchinson, Boutte, C. Austin, Hodgins
TE's: Goedert, Waller, LaPorta, Schultz, J. Ferguson, Schoonmaker, Granson
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd
2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2023
2021 League Champ
2020 2nd place
2019 League Champ
2018 League Champ
Re: Cut Shaheen?
I'm holding him still.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
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Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst
Re: Cut Shaheen?
I would think in a 2TE league, you could at least sell him on the cheap instead of dropping.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Cut Shaheen?
Trey Burton is a replacement for Dion Sims. They are looking to ship him. Burton and Shaheen are not the same TE. They offer two different variables in the offense but they are both versatile threats.
Shaheen is vertical target with blocking capabilities, who would have the ability to move out in the flat or over the middle, if he doesn't have an assignment. He will set his block and then move out over middle for those streaky catches which Gronkowski is known for. Big red zone target too.
Burton on the other hand is a move down the field TE/half-back flex option. Every defensive coordinator and their mother knows when he is in the set it's not to set up a block. He doesn't have the upper body strength. He does have a lot of athletic prowess and has had success running outside the numbers, moving LBs out of the midfield. You'll see him move a lot behind the line of scrimmage and set up some nice decoy plays. Think Charles Clay.
Now imagine them both on the field. Mitchell Trubisky loves two TE sets. It offers a lot when the WR core lacked last season. You'll get like 5-6 TDs a season from each of them.
In my opinion, they are both holds, especially in a two TE league. Or wait for Shaheen to show value and trade him. I see you have a lot of quality options at TE and Engram somewhat offers the same as Shaheen so you don't need two young TEs.
Shaheen is vertical target with blocking capabilities, who would have the ability to move out in the flat or over the middle, if he doesn't have an assignment. He will set his block and then move out over middle for those streaky catches which Gronkowski is known for. Big red zone target too.
Burton on the other hand is a move down the field TE/half-back flex option. Every defensive coordinator and their mother knows when he is in the set it's not to set up a block. He doesn't have the upper body strength. He does have a lot of athletic prowess and has had success running outside the numbers, moving LBs out of the midfield. You'll see him move a lot behind the line of scrimmage and set up some nice decoy plays. Think Charles Clay.
Now imagine them both on the field. Mitchell Trubisky loves two TE sets. It offers a lot when the WR core lacked last season. You'll get like 5-6 TDs a season from each of them.
In my opinion, they are both holds, especially in a two TE league. Or wait for Shaheen to show value and trade him. I see you have a lot of quality options at TE and Engram somewhat offers the same as Shaheen so you don't need two young TEs.
T1: 12-team, dynasty, 22 roster (3 IR) | 1pt ppr | FAAB/Rook Draft
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes, Mariota
RB Hunt, Penny, Michel
WR A. Cooper, D. Thomas, D. Moore, Doctson, M. Williams, Doctson, Sutton
TE OJ Howard, Hooper, Butt
K None
DST: None
T2: 16-team, 13-keeper, 17 roster (2 IR) | 1pt ppr | FA/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 3WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes
RB Hunt, Freeman, Ro. Jones
WR Cooks, D. Thomas, Landry, Kupp, Watkins, Robinson, K. Benjamin, Godwin
TE Graham
K None
DST: None
2018 3.2
T3: 12-team, dynasty, 25 roster (2 IR) | .5pt ppr | FAAB/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | DST
QB Goff, Mariota, Dalton, Tannehill
RB Freeman, Hyde, Powell, Perine, Gallman
WR Beckham, Dez Bryant, A. Robinson, Kupp, Godwin, Reynolds, A. Wilson, C. Williams
TE Engram, Howard, Butt
DST Rams, Falcons
2018 1.3 3.1 4.5 4.12
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes, Mariota
RB Hunt, Penny, Michel
WR A. Cooper, D. Thomas, D. Moore, Doctson, M. Williams, Doctson, Sutton
TE OJ Howard, Hooper, Butt
K None
DST: None
T2: 16-team, 13-keeper, 17 roster (2 IR) | 1pt ppr | FA/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 3WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes
RB Hunt, Freeman, Ro. Jones
WR Cooks, D. Thomas, Landry, Kupp, Watkins, Robinson, K. Benjamin, Godwin
TE Graham
K None
DST: None
2018 3.2
T3: 12-team, dynasty, 25 roster (2 IR) | .5pt ppr | FAAB/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | DST
QB Goff, Mariota, Dalton, Tannehill
RB Freeman, Hyde, Powell, Perine, Gallman
WR Beckham, Dez Bryant, A. Robinson, Kupp, Godwin, Reynolds, A. Wilson, C. Williams
TE Engram, Howard, Butt
DST Rams, Falcons
2018 1.3 3.1 4.5 4.12
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Re: Cut Shaheen?
Good stuff. The Bears are lacking at WR so it wouldn't surprise me to see Shaheen take a step forward and haul in 30-35 catches. He has a bright future.Snickers wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:40 am Trey Burton is a replacement for Dion Sims. They are looking to ship him. Burton and Shaheen are not the same TE. They offer two different variables in the offense but they are both versatile threats.
Shaheen is vertical target with blocking capabilities, who would have the ability to move out in the flat or over the middle, if he doesn't have an assignment. He will set his block and then move out over middle for those streaky catches which Gronkowski is known for. Big red zone target too.
Burton on the other hand is a move down the field TE/half-back flex option. Every defensive coordinator and their mother knows when he is in the set it's not to set up a block. He doesn't have the upper body strength. He does have a lot of athletic prowess and has had success running outside the numbers, moving LBs out of the midfield. You'll see him move a lot behind the line of scrimmage and set up some nice decoy plays. Think Charles Clay.
Now imagine them both on the field. Mitchell Trubisky loves two TE sets. It offers a lot when the WR core lacked last season. You'll get like 5-6 TDs a season from each of them.
In my opinion, they are both holds, especially in a two TE league. Or wait for Shaheen to show value and trade him. I see you have a lot of quality options at TE and Engram somewhat offers the same as Shaheen so you don't need two young TEs.
Re: Cut Shaheen?
You have much better cut candidates in John Brown and Hollins.
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Re: Cut Shaheen?
Agree... in the league where I own Shaheen I am keeping (and it is standard TE scoring)
Team 1, 0.5 PPR SuperFlex: QB, FlexQB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex
QB: Watson, Herbert (Mariota)
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins (Akers, K Herbert)
WR: DJ Moore, Woods, Golladay (T Patrick, Shenault, Rondale M, Cephus)
TE: Goedert (Njoku, Bryant, Trautman)
Pick 1.01
QB: Watson, Herbert (Mariota)
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins (Akers, K Herbert)
WR: DJ Moore, Woods, Golladay (T Patrick, Shenault, Rondale M, Cephus)
TE: Goedert (Njoku, Bryant, Trautman)
Pick 1.01
Re: Cut Shaheen?
TEs take time to develop. Just because they signed Burton doesn't mean long-term Shaheen won't be worth anything. Just have to have patience and not worry about short-term production.
Re: Cut Shaheen?
Agreed. Even Brissett is more of a cut than those two.
T1: 12-team, dynasty, 22 roster (3 IR) | 1pt ppr | FAAB/Rook Draft
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes, Mariota
RB Hunt, Penny, Michel
WR A. Cooper, D. Thomas, D. Moore, Doctson, M. Williams, Doctson, Sutton
TE OJ Howard, Hooper, Butt
K None
DST: None
T2: 16-team, 13-keeper, 17 roster (2 IR) | 1pt ppr | FA/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 3WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes
RB Hunt, Freeman, Ro. Jones
WR Cooks, D. Thomas, Landry, Kupp, Watkins, Robinson, K. Benjamin, Godwin
TE Graham
K None
DST: None
2018 3.2
T3: 12-team, dynasty, 25 roster (2 IR) | .5pt ppr | FAAB/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | DST
QB Goff, Mariota, Dalton, Tannehill
RB Freeman, Hyde, Powell, Perine, Gallman
WR Beckham, Dez Bryant, A. Robinson, Kupp, Godwin, Reynolds, A. Wilson, C. Williams
TE Engram, Howard, Butt
DST Rams, Falcons
2018 1.3 3.1 4.5 4.12
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes, Mariota
RB Hunt, Penny, Michel
WR A. Cooper, D. Thomas, D. Moore, Doctson, M. Williams, Doctson, Sutton
TE OJ Howard, Hooper, Butt
K None
DST: None
T2: 16-team, 13-keeper, 17 roster (2 IR) | 1pt ppr | FA/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 3WR | TE | FLEX | K | DST
QB Winston, Mahomes
RB Hunt, Freeman, Ro. Jones
WR Cooks, D. Thomas, Landry, Kupp, Watkins, Robinson, K. Benjamin, Godwin
TE Graham
K None
DST: None
2018 3.2
T3: 12-team, dynasty, 25 roster (2 IR) | .5pt ppr | FAAB/Rookie Draft
QB | 2RB | 2WR | TE | FLEX | DST
QB Goff, Mariota, Dalton, Tannehill
RB Freeman, Hyde, Powell, Perine, Gallman
WR Beckham, Dez Bryant, A. Robinson, Kupp, Godwin, Reynolds, A. Wilson, C. Williams
TE Engram, Howard, Butt
DST Rams, Falcons
2018 1.3 3.1 4.5 4.12
Re: Cut Shaheen?
He's one of those guys that owners will eventually get tired of holding for 2-3 years, and once you drop him, he'll break out.
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