Julio vs 1.2
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Julio is a better Real life WR then fantasy... its proven year after year.
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
I like this deal for you. Yes it sucks that the 2nd back rookie runningback, who is extremely unproven and could very well bust, is valued at close to the great Julio Jones' level- but this fits your team needs and Godwin is a nice addition that is worth more than the 19 2nd and Cole is more than just a throw in
I would do this, I understand it stings though, but unless you plan on holding Julio and banking on him starting the season with 3-4 big games and selling him then to a contender in need of a WR1 (which isn't a bad idea) this is as good as its gonna get
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
Agree with both AresGodOWar and Skip. However, I’m taking into account my league. At the beginning of last season, I let the entire league know Julio was up for grabs. Only one person showed interest and they wanted a 1 for 1 trade with their player being of less value and talent.skip wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:42 amNeither would I. I prefer Julio to 1.01. No way would I make this trade.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:29 am No way I give up a top 5 WR that can win me the title the next 2 or 3 years for some rookie
With that said, this may be the best I can get for him in my league. I originally tried to make a trade with him that would include the 1.2 and Arob, but he’s not willing to move Arob. And Nuk is out of the question.
This league goes bananas for rookie picks when it nears our rookie draft. So, if I were to do this trade, my thought process was that I may be able to get good value for the 1.2. If not, take Guice or Barkley, if he falls to me.
The way this league is, I see Julio falling off a cliff in value after this season due to him turning 30.
Re: Julio vs 1.2
So it sounds like your rationale here is based on loss in value, which I understand to a point...but I think you are sacrificing a LOT of production in making this trade. Looking at your sig, this would require you to start Jordy or presumably Cole who you get in this deal in place of Julio. I wouldn't be able to stomach that just to get Guice(?). Or it operates on the assumption that you can get a better option in return for the 1.2 later. This isn't a trade I'd be comfortable making but I don't think anything other than the 1.02 is worth much on the return.
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
Devante Adams and mixon for julio? I thibk there's 0 chance that happensAresGodOWar wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:29 am No way I give up a top 5 WR that can win me the title the next 2 or 3 years for some rookie , If you don't have a chance to win flip him for couple younger stars , Maybe something like Adams and Mixon or whatever
Re: Julio vs 1.2
This.darewood11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:58 amDevante Adams and mixon for julio? I thibk there's 0 chance that happensAresGodOWar wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:29 am No way I give up a top 5 WR that can win me the title the next 2 or 3 years for some rookie , If you don't have a chance to win flip him for couple younger stars , Maybe something like Adams and Mixon or whatever
As an owner of both Julio and Adams, I wouldn't give Adams to acquire Julio straight up and I sure as hell wouldn't add anything on top.
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
No way I would give Julio for Adams , I wanna see Adams do something vs #1 CBs with Nelson gone now because we seen how he did when Nelson missed the year
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
Agreed. Adams isn't on the same tier as Julio. I do think asking for Adams/Mixon is too much but just Adams isn't enough.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:08 am No way I would give Julio for Adams , I wanna see Adams do something vs #1 CBs with Nelson gone now because we seen how he did when Nelson missed the year
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
He's always banged up. Bigger guy, had a ton of injuries. A 29 year old Calvin Johnson wasn't "that old" either. I don't see Julio lasting much longer either. A guy like AB seems like he could play forever. I'd be cashing out on Julio now. You don't want to get stuck with a hot potato. You got his best years, then you can get a decent receiver and a top rookie pick to re-stock with after his best years are done? That's a win for me.kilgorextrout wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:28 pm Come now, he's not THAT old. Give me the proven commodity here still performing at a high level. Julio for me.
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
Jordy wasn't drawing the number 1 corner last year. Adams was.AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:08 am No way I would give Julio for Adams , I wanna see Adams do something vs #1 CBs with Nelson gone now because we seen how he did when Nelson missed the year
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Sure it wasn't Michael Clark Duncan ?
Turned out in this version Jordy was the one who walked " The Green Bay Mile "
Guess Nelson looked washed up ... " Tired, real tired" to the Boss
But don't shed any tears for Jordy,he breathed life back into his career by joining Chuckie although I suspect he'll be sittin' on the dock in the bay. His fantasy relevancy ship has sailed
Turned out in this version Jordy was the one who walked " The Green Bay Mile "
Guess Nelson looked washed up ... " Tired, real tired" to the Boss
But don't shed any tears for Jordy,he breathed life back into his career by joining Chuckie although I suspect he'll be sittin' on the dock in the bay. His fantasy relevancy ship has sailed
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
Can't get on board with the Julio>>1.01 statements here. First of all, in trade value alone within the rest of your league mates, the 1.01 is the better piece to have. Everybody can use Saquon on their team, no rebuild team wants Julio, so with 1.01 you have 11 trade partners, with Juilo you have what, 6? Secondly, unless every single scout and talent evaluator is wrong, Barkley is going to be a top tier dynasty back for the foreseeable future, and I would argue his production could very well equal or beat Julio's every year Julio plays from this point on, even if you decide to keep the 1.01. Not sure the upside to keeping Julio over the 1.01. There are no guarantees Julio produces 2-3 years of WR1 numbers, either.
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I don't think anyone made the statement that Julio was worth that much more than 1.01. I prefer him to 1.01, but I also understand the other side. The discussion here is vs. 1.02 which we all know is a significant drop off from the value of 1.01. Likelihood of whomever that is outproducing Julio is a lot lower. My problem with the proposed trade is I just don't think the rest of the pieces offer much... Godwin? Cole? These are ultimately going to be more roster filler/upside than actually useful in a lineup. If the deal is going to be for the 1.02, I want just one additional piece that is better than these options.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:59 am Can't get on board with the Julio>>1.01 statements here. First of all, in trade value alone within the rest of your league mates, the 1.01 is the better piece to have. Everybody can use Saquon on their team, no rebuild team wants Julio, so with 1.01 you have 11 trade partners, with Juilo you have what, 6? Secondly, unless every single scout and talent evaluator is wrong, Barkley is going to be a top tier dynasty back for the foreseeable future, and I would argue his production could very well equal or beat Julio's every year Julio plays from this point on, even if you decide to keep the 1.01. Not sure the upside to keeping Julio over the 1.01. There are no guarantees Julio produces 2-3 years of WR1 numbers, either.
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I also would have considered the first. I was going to say, add Godwin if you can. So I would do the counter.
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Re: Julio vs 1.2
Fair enough.skip wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:14 amI don't think anyone made the statement that Julio was worth that much more than 1.01. I prefer him to 1.01, but I also understand the other side. The discussion here is vs. 1.02 which we all know is a significant drop off from the value of 1.01. Likelihood of whomever that is outproducing Julio is a lot lower. My problem with the proposed trade is I just don't think the rest of the pieces offer much... Godwin? Cole? These are ultimately going to be more roster filler/upside than actually useful in a lineup. If the deal is going to be for the 1.02, I want just one additional piece that is better than these options.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:59 am Can't get on board with the Julio>>1.01 statements here. First of all, in trade value alone within the rest of your league mates, the 1.01 is the better piece to have. Everybody can use Saquon on their team, no rebuild team wants Julio, so with 1.01 you have 11 trade partners, with Juilo you have what, 6? Secondly, unless every single scout and talent evaluator is wrong, Barkley is going to be a top tier dynasty back for the foreseeable future, and I would argue his production could very well equal or beat Julio's every year Julio plays from this point on, even if you decide to keep the 1.01. Not sure the upside to keeping Julio over the 1.01. There are no guarantees Julio produces 2-3 years of WR1 numbers, either.
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