Keenum Value

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Keenum Value

Postby Perry_Grin13 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:53 pm

My team and picks are below in signature. I am looking to trade Keenum away as I don't think he'll keep his value outside Min.

Team I am trading with will have 3rd pick in every round and his team is:
QB: Winston, Kizer
RB: Gurley, McCaffery, McKinnion, Henry, Burkhead, Yeldon, Prosise, E. Hood
WR: Evans, Diggs, M Lee, Agholor, Doctson, Z Jones, A Stewart, B Perriman, Coleman
TE: Njoku, J James, E Dickson

I offered Keenum for 2019 2nd. He countered with Keenum for a 2019 3rd. Not sure If I should ask for more (player or pick), take the 3rd or hold. Possible counter I thought of was trading 3rds this year plus 2019 3rd.

Thanks.
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QB: Lamar/Tannehill/Mayfield/Darnold
RB: Miles Sanders/D. Swift/James Robinson/R. Jones/D. Harris/R Penny/L Murray/B. Scott
WR: AJ Brown/Golladay/Allen Robinson/T. Higgins/Van Jefferson/G. Davis/Bryan Edwards/Scotty Miller
TE: Andrews/Goedert
K: J. Sanders
P: R. Dixon
CB: Tyron Johnson/Carlton Davis/Mike Hilton
S: K. Neal/T. Rapp/J Chinn/D Sorensen
EDR: M Garrett/Maxx Crosby/ Josh Allen/Y. Gross-Matos/H Reddick/C. Ferrell
IL: S Tuitt/E Oliver/M Ioannidis
LB: D. White/D. Jones/F. Warner/L. Vander Esch/L. Wilson


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'21 picks: 1.02, 1.03, 2.03, 2.12, 3.06, 3.12, 6.08, 7.12
'22 picks: 1,1,1, 2,3,4,5,6,7
'23 picks: 1,1, 3,4,5,7

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Re: Keenum Value

Postby mclilj » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:55 pm

What about keenum and your 3rd for his 19 second?
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QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
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2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4

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2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
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Re: Keenum Value

Postby Goddard » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:24 pm

No one's going to pay a 2nd for Keenum in a 1QB league. You're lucky he offered a 3rd and I'd take that and run if I were you.

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Re: Keenum Value

Postby briank » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:26 pm

I agree that you’re lucky to get anything for Keenum in a 1 QB league.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Keenum Value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:33 pm

Goddard wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:24 pm No one's going to pay a 2nd for Keenum in a 1QB league. You're lucky he offered a 3rd and I'd take that and run if I were you.
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There's a very good chance Keenum is a pumpkin halfway through the year and has NO 1QB value, similar to Glennon after a few weeks.
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HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
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Re: Keenum Value

Postby Bucky15 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:30 pm

Yeah Keenum seems like an incredibly likable guy so I feel like he's someone to root for, but I really think Shurmur's system was perfect for him and I just don't see him succeeding anywhere else.
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Mahomes, Stafford
A. Jones, Guice, RoJo, Hyde, Edwards, Gio, C. Thompson, Dixon, CJA, J. Jackson
MT, Diggs, Cooks, G. Tate, MVS, Smokey Brown, Goodwin
Ertz, Burton, Herndon

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1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x

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Luck, Dalton
Kamara, Michel, D. Henry, T. Coleman, Brieda, Foreman, Dixon
OBJ, MT, JuJu, A-Rob, Kirk, D. Hamilton, Crowder, T Smith (NO)
Howard, Ebron, Rudolph

2019
1.8, 2.8, 4.8
2020
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Re: Keenum Value

Postby RB6 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:15 am

Take the 3rd and be done with it.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

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Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
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Re: Keenum Value

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:02 am

I'd take the 3rd or anything I can get for Keenum. He has zero value in a 1QB league.
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Re: Keenum Value

Postby EAGLES » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:07 am

Agree with the masses. Take the 3rd. Keenum is your QB3 potentially QB4 in a 1QB league.
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Re: Keenum Value

Postby bigbuck22 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:47 am

sorry to hijack a little, but looks like you've got a pretty clear answer and since the post is about his "value", I'm curious what everyone feels his value should be in a superflex?

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Re: Keenum Value

Postby topher » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:13 am

3rd is good enough.....but I think I would hold since you dont have anything after Winston...

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Re: Keenum Value

Postby Perry_Grin13 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:35 pm

Team posted was team I was trading with, mine is in signature. I made the offer of 3.12 + Keenum for 2019 3rd + 3.03 and got that accepted. Thanks for the input. We are a new dynasty league all new players so that has some factor as to how evaluating value of rookie picks. Thanks everyone for the input.
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O-Scoring: 6pt Pass TD/-4pt int/PPR/TE Premium
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1SF, 1K, 1P,
D-Scoring: 8pt sack/8pt int/IL Premium
Start: 1 IL(3-4 DL, 4-3DT), 2 EDR(3-4OLB,4-3DE), 2 LB, 2 CB, 1 S, 1 DB, 1 IL/EDR/LB, 1 D-Flex


QB: Lamar/Tannehill/Mayfield/Darnold
RB: Miles Sanders/D. Swift/James Robinson/R. Jones/D. Harris/R Penny/L Murray/B. Scott
WR: AJ Brown/Golladay/Allen Robinson/T. Higgins/Van Jefferson/G. Davis/Bryan Edwards/Scotty Miller
TE: Andrews/Goedert
K: J. Sanders
P: R. Dixon
CB: Tyron Johnson/Carlton Davis/Mike Hilton
S: K. Neal/T. Rapp/J Chinn/D Sorensen
EDR: M Garrett/Maxx Crosby/ Josh Allen/Y. Gross-Matos/H Reddick/C. Ferrell
IL: S Tuitt/E Oliver/M Ioannidis
LB: D. White/D. Jones/F. Warner/L. Vander Esch/L. Wilson


'19,'20: Champion
'21 picks: 1.02, 1.03, 2.03, 2.12, 3.06, 3.12, 6.08, 7.12
'22 picks: 1,1,1, 2,3,4,5,6,7
'23 picks: 1,1, 3,4,5,7


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