Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

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Sammy Watkins value

Top 4 WRs
2
3%
WR 5-8
2
3%
WR 9-12
11
15%
WR 13-16
28
39%
WR 17+
28
39%
 
Total votes: 71

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Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby UsualSuspects » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:49 pm

Where is everyone at with Sammy?
If he was part of a trade offer today (before free agency) where do you slot him in with the other top WRs?
Also who is his closest comparison WR?
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Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- 1pt ppr and return yds pts
Qb- Brady, Cousins, Dalton
RB- Hunt, Barkley, Penny, Barber, Grant, Galmann, Samuels
WR- AB, MT, Godwin, Garcon, Crowder, Tyrell Williams, Lockett, Samuel, Albert Wilson, Dez
TE- Ertz, Kelce, Andrews
K- Buttker, Matt Bryant
2019 pick- 2,5
2020 pick- 2,3,5
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RB- DJ, Barkley, Miller, McGuire, Clement, Gallman
WR- Hill, Gordon, DJax, Hurns, Jordy, Sanu, DJ Moore, Kirk, Gallup, Washington, Zay Jones, Darboh
TE- Ertz, Engram, Reed, Jonnu Smith
DE/DT- Lawrence, Buckner, Suh, Jonathen Allen, Wilkersen
LB- Kuechley, KJ Wright, Von Miller, Trevathan, Craig Robertson, Jordan Hicks, Reeves-Maybin, Marquel Lee,
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value

Postby thomasscheeks » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:53 pm

Pretty far down there, 20 something. I still have faith in him and think he can turn his career around, but he's just too risky to carry significant value in fantasy
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RB: Freeman (IR), Guice (IR), A Jones, Drake, Dion, Martin
WR: Thomas, Thielen, ARob, Westbrook, Cole, A Miller, Hamilton, Reynolds
TE: Kittle, Doyle
DL: Bosa (IR), JPP, Ingram
LB: Mack, Schobert, Chubb
DB: Collins, Baker
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RB: Freeman, Dion, Cohen, Richard
WR: Thomas, Cooper, Alshon, Callaway, T Taylor, Hogan, JMatt, Gabriel, Hamilton
TE: Kelce, Gesicki
D/ST: Texans, Packers

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QB: Matty Ice, Darnold
RB: Gordon, Hunt, Crowell, Ekeler
WR: Nuk, Davis, M Williams, DJ Moore, Westbrook, Goodwin, T Taylor, Snead, David Moore, Samuel
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby bigheadmikele » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:11 pm

He's one of those guys that seems like he never really pulls it all together. Seems like a good prospect but he's getting too old to be considered a prospect.
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RBs
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WRs
TY.Hilton/A.Robinson/M.Bryant/D.Parker/C.Davis/M.Williams/J.Edelman/T.Lockett
TEs
T.Eifert/E.Ebron/ASJ/A.Shaheen
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LBs
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby Kramer » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:41 pm

bigheadmikele wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:11 pm
He's one of those guys that seems like he never really pulls it all together. Seems like a good prospect but he's getting too old to be considered a prospect.
He's only 24. That's not old at all.

As for OP's question, I would personally still pay up to 1.02 for him. He's worth around Alshon, Baldwin to me.
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QB: Winston,Dak,Dalton,Foles
RB: Fournette,Barkley,Mixon,Guice,Chubb,Foreman,Collins,Joe Williams,Yeldon,Scarborough
WR: Nuk,Davis,CoCo,JMatt,Doctson,Treadwell,Tyrell,Richardson
TE: Ertz,Eifert,Hooper,Everett,Shaheen,Burton,Butt

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QB: Rodgers,Wilson,Luck, Smith
RB: Fournette,McCoy,Mixon,Foreman,Martin,Powell,Conner,Collins
WR: Nuk,Hilton,Alshon,ARob,Davis,Tate,Gordon,MikeWilliams,Doctson,Kupp,Godwin
TE: Graham,Olsen,Henry,Howard,Everett,Kittle,Burton,Gathers
IDP: Bowmann,Burfict,Lee

28 team PPR SF, x2 copy, 0.2 PPC, 1.5PPR for TE - 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/5Flex/1SF (22+4IR+6Taxi)
QB: Wentz,Luck,Brissett
RB: Bell,Dixon,Gillislee,AP,Joe Williams,Perkins,Kelley
WR: Nuk,Hilton,ARob,Watkins,Decker
TE: Howard,Reed,Brate

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby dmac37 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:45 pm

I will admit I have not followed his entire career closely but I do not get the inconsistent label. At this stage I think the only answer to this poll is 17+. I like to bet on talent and upside so to me he is around WR 20-25 in my rankings but could easily see him as a top 10 WR in a year.

Things I know or I think are true:
He is a top 10 talent WR
His career in Buffalo, other than when he was injured = stud WR #1 for NFL and fantasy
Until this year, talent was not a concern but injury issues were
The move to the Rams tells us nothing at this point about his value. Still has the pedigree to be a #1 WR, but the truth is he did not produce in a high powered offense in 2017- which IMO brings up the real question marks about his future value.

With that said fantasy football is all about hitting upside and I still believe that he has the talent and upside to produce for NFL and FF purposes.
12 Team PPR Scoring:
QB: Rodgers, Goff
RB: Hunt, Fournette, Collins, A. Jones, Foreman, Gallman, Samuels, Ware
WR:OBJ, M. Thomas, K. Allen, Watkins, Ridley, C. Rodgers, Taywon Taylor, Coutee,
TE: Ertz, Herndon, Shaheen,
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DST: Jaguars

12 Team Superflex PPR Scoring:
QB: Rodgers, Wentz, Manning
RB: Hunt, Fournette, Guice, Penny, A. Jones, Ronald Jones, Thompson, I. Smith, McGuire, Josh Adams
WR: OBJ, Jeffrey, Ridley, Godwin, John Brown, Sutton, Enunwa,
TE: Henry, Olsen, Hurst, Herndon

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby gerg4747 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:28 am

Right now he’s probably around WR20 for me, but I think he’s one of the few guys in that range that could easily produce WR1 numbers
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|WR| O. Beckham Jr., D. Hopkins, M. Valdes- Scantling, D. Cain, DJ Chark, D. Hamilton, E. St. Brown, D. Moore, M. Ateman
|TE| E. Engram, G. Everett, ASJ, A. Shaheen
|K| S. Gostkowski
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby millworkguy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:37 am

Sold him (with 2 yrs remaining on his contract) for a 1.12 and was happy to get it. I've also got him pegged about wr20
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby ESKAY » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:03 am

Top 4 WR for what?? His own team?

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby Thurston4040 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:47 am

I'd say he's in the WR 15-20 range currently, but like others have said he has the talent and draft pedigree to make a big jump up the rankings.

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby millworkguy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:48 am

ESKAY wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:03 am
Top 4 WR for what?? His own team?
I'm still shocked someone voted for that.
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby jwb32 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:46 am

I still believe he has the talent to squeeze into top 12 but I don't see it happening with Goff. He needs a gunslinger to reach full potential.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Mariota, Darnold
RBs- Mixon, Cook, RoJo, Murphy, McGuire(IR)
WRs- OBJ, Cooks, Boyd, Watkins, Funchess, Cole, TTaylor, Dorsett, ESB, DMoore
TEs- Rudolph, McDonald, Akins
2019 - 1,1,2,3,4

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Stafford,Bradford,Taylor
RBs- Cook, Guice, Lindsay, RoJo, Edwards, Ajayi, Ekeler
WRs- Cooks, Watkins, Boyd, Miller, Coutee, Lee, RAnderson, JGrant
TEs- Burton,Doyle,Hooper, Herndon
2019 - 1,2,3,3


TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr.
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rivers,Trubisky
RBs- Cook, Coleman, Adams, Wilson, Penny, Murray
WRs- Evans, Allen, Diggs, Boyd, Shepard, Fuller, Moncrief, ZayJones, Higgins,
TEs- Njoku,RSJ, Herndon
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2020 - 1,2

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby snaps06 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:52 am

Hopkins
OBJ
Evans
Brown
Julio
Cooks
Keenan
Davis
AJ
M. Thomas
Adams
Diggs
Juju
Landry
Cooper
Tyreek

There's 16 I'd take before him, not necessarily in order (just in the order I thought about them). Not including rookies, I'd lump him in with the following group because of his upside (I'd say he has the best upside of the group, actually):

Watkins, A-Rob (I'm very low on him), Parker, Fuller, TY, Alshon, DT, Dez.
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REBUILDING 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Stafford,Rosen,Tannehill
Crowell,Duke,CJA,Bernard,Duke Jr.,M. Brown,Rod Smith
Allen,Cooper,Juju,Miller,Kirk,Washington,Moore,Rogers,Doctson
Ebron,Henry,Walker,McDonald
2019 Picks: 1,2,2,4,5
2020 picks: 1,1,2,2,2,3,5

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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex
Rivers,Stafford,Rosen
Conner,Zeke,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Breida,Davis
Hopkins,Cooks,Watkins,Woods,M. Williams,Bryant
Ebron,Kittle,McDonald,Henry
2019 Picks: 2
2020 Picks: 1,2,3

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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex Superflex
Luck,Cousins,Jackson,Hoyer
Zeke,Ingram,Crowell,Yeldon,Smith,Blue
Evans,Watkins,Boyd,Doctson,Grant,Moore
Burton,McDonald,Shaheen

Team 4: 12-Team 0.5 PPR
QB RB RB WR TE FLEX FLEX
Rivers,Rosen,Fitz
Gurley,Fournette,Gordon,Ingram,Yeldon,CJA,Brown
Julio,Landry,TWilliams,Enunwa
Olsen,Njoku,Clay

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby ESKAY » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:46 am

millworkguy wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:48 am
ESKAY wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:03 am
Top 4 WR for what?? His own team?
I'm still shocked someone voted for that.

I think we need to welcome Sammy Watkins himself to our forum. He is the only guy who would vote top4. But I think it was the OP who voted that... or why else would he make that an option? Whoever voted top 4 WR needs to speak up. Because you just picked Sammy over one of OBJ,AB,Nuke or Julio!

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby UsualSuspects » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:33 am

ESKAY wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:46 am
millworkguy wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:48 am
ESKAY wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:03 am
Top 4 WR for what?? His own team?
I'm still shocked someone voted for that.

I think we need to welcome Sammy Watkins himself to our forum. He is the only guy who would vote top4. But I think it was the OP who voted that... or why else would he make that an option? Whoever voted top 4 WR needs to speak up. Because you just picked Sammy over one of OBJ,AB,Nuke or Julio!
Nope. Not me. It was late when I was making the post and just was trying to get some options out there. I would put him 15-20 probably.
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Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- 1pt ppr and return yds pts
Qb- Brady, Cousins, Dalton
RB- Hunt, Barkley, Penny, Barber, Grant, Galmann, Samuels
WR- AB, MT, Godwin, Garcon, Crowder, Tyrell Williams, Lockett, Samuel, Albert Wilson, Dez
TE- Ertz, Kelce, Andrews
K- Buttker, Matt Bryant
2019 pick- 2,5
2020 pick- 2,3,5
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1QB, 1-2RB, 2-4WR, 1-2TE, 1K, 3-4 DT/DE, 2-4LB, 4-6CB/SS
QB- Wilson, Carr, Webb
RB- DJ, Barkley, Miller, McGuire, Clement, Gallman
WR- Hill, Gordon, DJax, Hurns, Jordy, Sanu, DJ Moore, Kirk, Gallup, Washington, Zay Jones, Darboh
TE- Ertz, Engram, Reed, Jonnu Smith
DE/DT- Lawrence, Buckner, Suh, Jonathen Allen, Wilkersen
LB- Kuechley, KJ Wright, Von Miller, Trevathan, Craig Robertson, Jordan Hicks, Reeves-Maybin, Marquel Lee,
Secondary- Reshad Jones, Eric Berry, Budda Baker, Justin Davis, Josh Jones

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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached

Postby RightlegTucker » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:57 am

I'd buy for a mid 2nd, won't sell for anything less than a late 1st. If you have him you're better off holding.


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