Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
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Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
Where is everyone at with Sammy?
If he was part of a trade offer today (before free agency) where do you slot him in with the other top WRs?
Also who is his closest comparison WR?
If he was part of a trade offer today (before free agency) where do you slot him in with the other top WRs?
Also who is his closest comparison WR?
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Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- PPR- All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value
Pretty far down there, 20 something. I still have faith in him and think he can turn his career around, but he's just too risky to carry significant value in fantasy
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
He's one of those guys that seems like he never really pulls it all together. Seems like a good prospect but he's getting too old to be considered a prospect.
Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
He's only 24. That's not old at all.bigheadmikele wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:11 pm He's one of those guys that seems like he never really pulls it all together. Seems like a good prospect but he's getting too old to be considered a prospect.
As for OP's question, I would personally still pay up to 1.02 for him. He's worth around Alshon, Baldwin to me.
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RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
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TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
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2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
I will admit I have not followed his entire career closely but I do not get the inconsistent label. At this stage I think the only answer to this poll is 17+. I like to bet on talent and upside so to me he is around WR 20-25 in my rankings but could easily see him as a top 10 WR in a year.
Things I know or I think are true:
He is a top 10 talent WR
His career in Buffalo, other than when he was injured = stud WR #1 for NFL and fantasy
Until this year, talent was not a concern but injury issues were
The move to the Rams tells us nothing at this point about his value. Still has the pedigree to be a #1 WR, but the truth is he did not produce in a high powered offense in 2017- which IMO brings up the real question marks about his future value.
With that said fantasy football is all about hitting upside and I still believe that he has the talent and upside to produce for NFL and FF purposes.
Things I know or I think are true:
He is a top 10 talent WR
His career in Buffalo, other than when he was injured = stud WR #1 for NFL and fantasy
Until this year, talent was not a concern but injury issues were
The move to the Rams tells us nothing at this point about his value. Still has the pedigree to be a #1 WR, but the truth is he did not produce in a high powered offense in 2017- which IMO brings up the real question marks about his future value.
With that said fantasy football is all about hitting upside and I still believe that he has the talent and upside to produce for NFL and FF purposes.
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RB: Bijan, Kamara, A. Jones Spears Allgeier, Tucker, Hunt
WR: ARSB, Ridley, Nacua, E. Moore, Hollywood, Addison, Mingo, Mooney, M. Thomas, Gallup
TE: Hockenson, Ferguson
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
Right now he’s probably around WR20 for me, but I think he’s one of the few guys in that range that could easily produce WR1 numbers
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|WR| DK, AJB, Nuk, Viska, Bryan Edwards
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|RB| Cook, Chubb, JRob, Jacobs, Pollard, Mattison, Jeff Wilson, Gallman, Ty’Son, Tony Jones, Rountree
|WR| DK, AJB, Nuk, Viska, Bryan Edwards
|TE| Kelce, Friarmuth
|K| Bass
|DEF| Pittsburgh
| 2022 |
| 2023 |
| 2024 |
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
Sold him (with 2 yrs remaining on his contract) for a 1.12 and was happy to get it. I've also got him pegged about wr20
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
Top 4 WR for what?? His own team?
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
I'd say he's in the WR 15-20 range currently, but like others have said he has the talent and draft pedigree to make a big jump up the rankings.
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
I'm still shocked someone voted for that.
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
I still believe he has the talent to squeeze into top 12 but I don't see it happening with Goff. He needs a gunslinger to reach full potential.
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
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QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
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WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
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RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
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TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
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QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
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RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
Hopkins
OBJ
Evans
Brown
Julio
Cooks
Keenan
Davis
AJ
M. Thomas
Adams
Diggs
Juju
Landry
Cooper
Tyreek
There's 16 I'd take before him, not necessarily in order (just in the order I thought about them). Not including rookies, I'd lump him in with the following group because of his upside (I'd say he has the best upside of the group, actually):
Watkins, A-Rob (I'm very low on him), Parker, Fuller, TY, Alshon, DT, Dez.
OBJ
Evans
Brown
Julio
Cooks
Keenan
Davis
AJ
M. Thomas
Adams
Diggs
Juju
Landry
Cooper
Tyreek
There's 16 I'd take before him, not necessarily in order (just in the order I thought about them). Not including rookies, I'd lump him in with the following group because of his upside (I'd say he has the best upside of the group, actually):
Watkins, A-Rob (I'm very low on him), Parker, Fuller, TY, Alshon, DT, Dez.
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REBUILD STARTED 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Herbert
Zeke,Sanders,Swift,Moss,Robinson,Mattison,Gio
Cooper,Juju,AJB,Reagor,Ruggs,Mims,Kirk,Bateman,Moore
Kelce,Henry
2022: 2,3,4
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Robinson,Dillon,CEvans,Mattison,Edmonds,Davis
Hopkins,Thomas,Woods,Cooks,Toney,MWilliams,
Kittle,Henry,Freier
2022:1,1,2,3,4
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Carr,Trask
Jacobs,Gibson,Robinson,LMurray,Ingram,Moss,Gio,SScott
Evans,Nuk,DJM,Boyd,Davis
Fant,Hooper,Gronk
2022:2,4
2023:1,1,2,3,4
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QB RB RB WR WR WR TE FLEX FLEX SFlex
Allen,Tanny,Cam,MacJones
Taylor,Akers,Montgomery,Gibson,Robinson,Harris,McKissic,SScott
DKM,Evans,Juju,Cooks,MWilliams,Trequan
Engram,Hurst,Gronk,Long
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Herbert
Zeke,Sanders,Swift,Moss,Robinson,Mattison,Gio
Cooper,Juju,AJB,Reagor,Ruggs,Mims,Kirk,Bateman,Moore
Kelce,Henry
2022: 2,3,4
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Robinson,Dillon,CEvans,Mattison,Edmonds,Davis
Hopkins,Thomas,Woods,Cooks,Toney,MWilliams,
Kittle,Henry,Freier
2022:1,1,2,3,4
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Carr,Trask
Jacobs,Gibson,Robinson,LMurray,Ingram,Moss,Gio,SScott
Evans,Nuk,DJM,Boyd,Davis
Fant,Hooper,Gronk
2022:2,4
2023:1,1,2,3,4
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QB RB RB WR WR WR TE FLEX FLEX SFlex
Allen,Tanny,Cam,MacJones
Taylor,Akers,Montgomery,Gibson,Robinson,Harris,McKissic,SScott
DKM,Evans,Juju,Cooks,MWilliams,Trequan
Engram,Hurst,Gronk,Long
Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
I think we need to welcome Sammy Watkins himself to our forum. He is the only guy who would vote top4. But I think it was the OP who voted that... or why else would he make that an option? Whoever voted top 4 WR needs to speak up. Because you just picked Sammy over one of OBJ,AB,Nuke or Julio!
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
Nope. Not me. It was late when I was making the post and just was trying to get some options out there. I would put him 15-20 probably.ESKAY wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:46 am
I think we need to welcome Sammy Watkins himself to our forum. He is the only guy who would vote top4. But I think it was the OP who voted that... or why else would he make that an option? Whoever voted top 4 WR needs to speak up. Because you just picked Sammy over one of OBJ,AB,Nuke or Julio!
12 Team PPR - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd ‘19 3rd ‘20 5th ‘21 3rd ‘22 7th ‘23 1st
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- PPR- All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- PPR- All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Re: Sammy Watkins trade value - poll attached
I'd buy for a mid 2nd, won't sell for anything less than a late 1st. If you have him you're better off holding.