Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
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Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
I’m really high on Adams and want to strike a deal. I’m happy to give up Jeffrey. Would that be enough? If not what else should I add in?
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DEF - Bills, Vikings.
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QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.
Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.
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QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
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QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.
Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.
Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
Short by a mid-first
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WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
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RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
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RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
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TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
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WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
Really? That far off?
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)
QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.
Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.
TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)
QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.
Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)
QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.
Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.
TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)
QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.
Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
Alshon alone is not enough. He's good but Adams is in a different tier imo.
You'd need to add some pieces. Here's what I see as some more realistic trades that might get it done:
Alshon + 1st + 2nd
Alshon + Mckinnon + 2nd
Alshon + Ingram
Alshon + Shepard + 2nd or 3rd
Alshon + Njoku + 2nd or 3rd
These would get you closer to an actual deal. It likely won't be enough for some Adams owners, but it might get it done, depending on how other owners view those secondary options.
*picks are for 2019 draft
You'd need to add some pieces. Here's what I see as some more realistic trades that might get it done:
Alshon + 1st + 2nd
Alshon + Mckinnon + 2nd
Alshon + Ingram
Alshon + Shepard + 2nd or 3rd
Alshon + Njoku + 2nd or 3rd
These would get you closer to an actual deal. It likely won't be enough for some Adams owners, but it might get it done, depending on how other owners view those secondary options.
*picks are for 2019 draft
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
I'd agree with the mid first difference.. Something in the 1.05-1.08 range.
ADP is imperfect put Adams is at 16 overall and Alshon is at 35 in the most recent data. Plus Alshon is 3 years older and much more injury prone.
ADP is imperfect put Adams is at 16 overall and Alshon is at 35 in the most recent data. Plus Alshon is 3 years older and much more injury prone.
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
Mid 1st sounds about right. Probably still wouldn't be enough for me at least.
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
TBH I wouldn't do a deal like this if I was you. This is wrong time to buy Adams, his value is quite high, and your team doesn't have the depth required to make a deal like this. You'd be better off just keeping Alshon.
Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
If you want to make a Jeffery for Adams deal, wait until the 2018 season when the two are putting up similar numbers. Right now you'd be selling low and buying high.
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
What hurts Alshon is the surgery he just had. There's a chance he could miss the beginning of next season. When they're both healthy, I think their values are not far off from each other, but right now, Adams' value is much higher.
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TE - Fant, Ebron, Kmet
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K: Greg Zuerlein
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
When healthy both WR's are equal in my opinion. The fact that Jeffrey just had surgery hurts his value making you having to overpay for him now. I agree that if you wait till both are putting up similar stats then it might be a 1 for 1 deal. How patient are you, is the question?
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
When healthy both WR's are equal in my opinion. The fact that Jeffrey just had surgery hurts his value making you having to overpay for him now. I agree that if you wait till both are putting up similar stats then it might be a 1 for 1 deal. How patient are you, is the question?
Dynasty Team: Gridiron Knights
12 Team League, Non-PPR League, All TD's worth 6pts (Including QB's) 1pt for every 10yds Passing, Rushing & Receiving.
22nd yr in league. Won 3 Championships 2003, 2017 & 2018
QB: K. Murrary, R. Wilson
RB: J. Mixon, J. Williams, T. Etienne, A. Gibson, A.J. Dillon, C. Hubbard
WR: D. Hopkins, T. McLaurin, D.J. Moore, D. Smith, E. Moore, B. Edwards
TE: D. Knox
K: B. McManus
DEF: Buffalo
2021 Record (9-5)
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12 Team League, Non-PPR League, All TD's worth 6pts (Including QB's) 1pt for every 10yds Passing, Rushing & Receiving.
QB: J. Allen
RB: J. Taylor, N. Harris, D. Swift
WR: M. Pittman
TE: G. Kittle
K:
DEF:
2021 Record (11-3)
12 Team League, Non-PPR League, All TD's worth 6pts (Including QB's) 1pt for every 10yds Passing, Rushing & Receiving.
22nd yr in league. Won 3 Championships 2003, 2017 & 2018
QB: K. Murrary, R. Wilson
RB: J. Mixon, J. Williams, T. Etienne, A. Gibson, A.J. Dillon, C. Hubbard
WR: D. Hopkins, T. McLaurin, D.J. Moore, D. Smith, E. Moore, B. Edwards
TE: D. Knox
K: B. McManus
DEF: Buffalo
2021 Record (9-5)
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RB: J. Taylor, N. Harris, D. Swift
WR: M. Pittman
TE: G. Kittle
K:
DEF:
2021 Record (11-3)
Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
News about Alshon’s injury almost makes me value him more. I always labeled as soft. Playing through the injury and looking decent/good + a new contract joining him to Wentz for a few years paints him in a new light.jpusmc0311 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:55 pm What hurts Alshon is the surgery he just had. There's a chance he could miss the beginning of next season. When they're both healthy, I think their values are not far off from each other, but right now, Adams' value is much higher.
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
For reference, I just sold Adams for Kelce+1.10 for Team 2 in sig. I thought that was pretty fair. Kelce and Alshon are similarly priced, so I think it’s a good comparison. Hope that helps
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Re: Fair Trade for Davante Adams?
i have adams in a superflex tiered ppr and wouldnt trade adams for alshon and a mid first. i would want alshon and 1.02
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
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