League expanding, need to protect 10 players

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League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby jmajewski » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:58 pm

Team 3 is expanding from 8 to 10 teams. I need to protect 10 players. 3 players from each team will be taken. It's a salary cap league ($72m) and I'm right up against the cap. I'd like some room to buy some free agents, as there are some good ones available. Also, we can franchise tag up to 3 players (the guys with 0 year contracts), but their salaries go up by 1 mil every year they are tagged.

Wentz - 3 years @ 3 million
Winston - 2@6
Mariota - 2@5

Zeke - 3@1
Hunt - 2@0.5
Kamara - 3@0.5
Mixon - 4@1
Lynch - 1@2.5
Montgomery - 1@2.5
Coleman - 0@0.5
Ajayi - 0@0.5

Hopkins - 2@9
Evans - 2@7
Hill - 4@3.5
Thielen - 1@1.5
Adams - 0@0.5
C Davis - 4@1
ARob 3@8
Parker - 1@3
Crowder - 1@3
Moncrief - 1@4
Pryor - 1@3.5
Matthews - 1@1

Graham - 1@2.5
Eifert - 1@0.5

I'm definitely going to protect Wentz, Zeke, Hunt, Kamara, and Hill because they are locked up and/or cheap. However, I am torn on who to protect among Hopkins, Evans, Adams, Thielen, Mixon, Davis due to their contracts being either expensive or soon-to-be expiring, or both. Basically, I am going to have to leave one of these guys unprotected. Right now, I am leaning toward Thielen. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
1) 10 Team PPR 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 2 W/R/T 1 TE
QB Dak Hurts Jones Wilson Wentz
WR Hill Adams Metcalf McLaurin Woods Juju Meyers Green
RB Cook Kamara Robinson Drake Ty’Son Murray Dobbins
TE Hockenson Goedert Ertz

2) 10 Team PPR 2 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 W/R/T
QB Jackson Watson Wentz Winston Haskins
WR Hopkins Thomas Hill Adams Godwin Sutton McLaurin Davis
RB Zeke Kamara Fournette Hunt
TE Ertz Engram

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby jeffster » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:11 pm

Man, that team is good.

I feel like I might actually keep Thielen for 1@1.5 over Davis for 4@1. That might be a minority opinion, but if Davis takes another year or two to emerge after his 300 yard rookie campaign, you'll end up getting nothing out of him until he's down to a year or so, and that seems plausible. Thielen, on the other hand, will spend that entire time contributing and is probably worth franchise tagging for a few years after his 1 expires, especially if they actually sign Cousins.

Mixon is my other lower choice. And with this being two QB, I might actually want to leave two from your 11 unprotected in order to keep Mariota also. I wouldn't consider ditching Hopkins or Evans unless you're forced to by the budget.

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:41 pm

I'd keep
Wentz, Winston, Mariota
Zeke, Hunt, Kamara
Hopkins, Evans, Hill, Adams
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby slaughterrt » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:04 pm

Can you trade some of those guys for picks?

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby HughHoney » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:58 pm

Taking into account salaries and contracts, I’d keep:

Wentz
Zeke, Hunt, Kamara, Mixon
Hopkins, Hill, Thielen, Adams, Davis

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby metoxen33 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:59 pm

I would keep at least two QB's, because of the 2 QB starting requirements

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby HughHoney » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:15 pm

HughHoney wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:58 pm Taking into account salaries and contracts, I’d keep:

Wentz
Zeke, Hunt, Kamara, Mixon
Hopkins, Hill, Thielen, Adams, Davis
Missed it’s 2 QB. Would keep Mariota instead of Adams or Thielen. Since you would have to franchise Adams I’m reading that as both would cost 1.5 for 1 season. I’d keep Adams.

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby vixen » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:35 pm

Wentz - 3 years @ 3 million
Winston - 2@6
Mariota - 2@5

Zeke - 3@1
Hunt - 2@0.5
Kamara - 3@0.5
Mixon - 4@1


Hopkins - 2@9
Adams - 0@0.5
C Davis - 4@1


but honestly not sure what 0 @ .5 for Adams means...does this mean that you lose him after this season? if that is the case, i would probablt keep Hill 4 @ 3.5 instead of Adams
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby jmajewski » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:40 am

jeffster wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:11 pm I wouldn't consider ditching Hopkins or Evans unless you're forced to by the budget.

Yeah, I don't want to lose those guys, but they are expensive. I was thinking that leaving one of them unprotected might make sense because 1) maybe they won't be taken based on their price and 2) even if they are taken, that frees up cap space to use on free agents.
slaughterrt wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:04 pm Can you trade some of those guys for picks?
Possible but unlikely. There haven't been many trades in this league and teams are hesitant to trade draft picks, which allow you to lock guys up cheaply. Draft picks are even more overvalued in this league than a normal dynasty league.
metoxen33 wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:59 pm I would keep at least two QB's, because of the 2 QB starting requirements
True, but Goff and Jimmy G are FAs and could possibly be had for the same price as Mariota or Winston. It's risky, though, since the new teams will probably need QBs and have a lot of cap space, so I should probably consider keeping 2 QBs.
vixen wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:35 pm but honestly not sure what 0 @ .5 for Adams means...does this mean that you lose him after this season?
Sorry for the confusion. Contracts listed at 0 years are up this year -- If I don't franchise tag them this offseason, they go into the free agent pool. If I franchise tag them, their salaries will go up by 1 million every year. So if I protect and tag Adams, he'll be 1.5m this year. I could tag him again next year and keep him for 2019 for 2.5m. We only get 3 franchise tags, though.
1) 10 Team PPR 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 2 W/R/T 1 TE
QB Dak Hurts Jones Wilson Wentz
WR Hill Adams Metcalf McLaurin Woods Juju Meyers Green
RB Cook Kamara Robinson Drake Ty’Son Murray Dobbins
TE Hockenson Goedert Ertz

2) 10 Team PPR 2 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 W/R/T
QB Jackson Watson Wentz Winston Haskins
WR Hopkins Thomas Hill Adams Godwin Sutton McLaurin Davis
RB Zeke Kamara Fournette Hunt
TE Ertz Engram

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:35 pm

Team 2 in my sig did something similar before last season. Multiple people dropped QBs thinking they could get them back for cheaper. It didn't happen. The QBs were like gold and the salaries got insane during the bidding. If you have 3 relatively cheap ones you can use that extra cash on your WRs/RBs.
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:13 pm

Even on the scale of an 8 team league, that team looks good. I do feel bad for the two new owners getting a team with presumable no one in the top 60 at all

Anyways Wentz, Zeke, Hunt, Kamara, and Hill are the correct call for the surefire keeps. I would add Hopkins, although expensive, and Evans to that list. Mixon is a hold since you have him for 4 years same with Davis, 2QB I would actually then keep both Winston and Mariota. That's 11, so drop your choice of Davis or Mixon

Arob is expensive piece to let go to use that 8 mill on other free agents in my opinion
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: League expanding, need to protect 10 players

Postby meineymoe » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:18 pm

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Wentz - 3 years @ 3 million
Mariota - 2@5

Zeke - 3@1
Hunt - 2@0.5
Kamara - 3@0.5
Mixon - 4@1

Hopkins - 2@9
Evans - 2@7
Hill - 4@3.5
Adams - 0@0.5
[/quote]

I like to play to win every year.
You can still play the free agent market - based on the roster you accumulated, I think you are up to the challenge of less cap space to get quality players.
I'd rather hang onto Evans/Hopkins at the higher price because their trade value is much more than what you would get with the extra cap space.
Good luck and have fun!

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